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Publicado por Aetius, 22.08.2016 - 10:29
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Ok I am officially ending the game, sorry that there will be no Grand Finale. None of the Triumvirs except Sertorius wanted civil war. However, the other two guys got absurdly angry at me. One has even blocked me, and imo has begun to take this game way too personally. I don't want to lose friends over a forum game, this is literally the only reason why I am now stopping. Also, a good lesson as to why you keep IC and OOC separate. ....Although in a way I see it as a success I got people to be this emotionally invested in a forum game

gg all, let us now remember the great legends of the roman families

Triumvir Families - these 3 have reached the apex of power, although shared
Gens Sertorii
The Sertorii are an old and powerful family that has been influential in politics and later on in war against the Numidians, Parthians and were regarded as superior naval commanders. They have had 6 consulships, numerous prosecutions, and were always a controlling force behind the populares movement. In the late republic Flavius became the most influential, and arguably strongest of the 3 triumvirs as ruler of the west.

Gens Maria
The Marians are a very old family that was highly regarded for their religious positions. Over the course of roman history they have held a stunning 7 consulships and 1 dictatorship. Much of marian history has been military oriented, known for defeating the Seleucids at Magnesia in early times. In the mid republic they were leaders of the populare movement but were assassinated when political tensions rose, temporarily weakening the family allowing the Sertorii to take control of the party. Later, the ambitious Gaius Marius Maximus became the youngest ever dictator defeating the Socii revolt, and after defeating the massive pontic forces in Greece declared the revolt against the corrupt senate with the aid of Sertori and and Rexians. After Quintus Sertorius died however the rivalry between his son Flavius and Gaius Marius Maximus became more pronounced as they were the two ambitious leaders of the populares and resented each other.

Gens Rexii
The Rexii have consistently been a presence in roman politics, having held 6 consulships and countless other positions. The Rexii are regarded as extremely skilled politicians having risen from former disgrace to great influence and wealth as a founding member of the populares. The Rexii do have a reputation of being greedy, yet their wealth bought them power that can now no longer be denied as rulers of the eastern provinces.


Winning Families- these families picked the right side and successfully navigated the roman game of thrones to high positions of power

Gens Flavii
Of all the families in Rome, the Flavii are the most well regarded among wealthy equites. Long ago this was not the case, but following the downfall of the Numetorii, the Flavii inherited much of the wealth of the Ripam Alexandrie and begun their own steady rise to 2 consulships and numerous censorships and praetorships. Aligning with the populares the Flavii became the political centerpiece of the movement as they secured such influence among the equite class that their power in the senate became overwhelming. Ever after they were given the surname of Cato, meaning wise. And wise they have been, supporting the right side becoming rich and powerful.

Gens Nipii
The Nipii emerged from obscurity in the punic wars, being used as master of horse for less competent dictators. However, in the end they secured their own command becoming heroes of the republic after defeating Hannibal at Cannae. This fame was long lasting but in the mid republic their fortunes began to dwindle as legions loyal to the Nipii were destroyed in the numerous wars. A founding member of the populares, the Nipii have been loyal partisans and this has kept them from sinking lower. Decius began to reverse these fortunes as being part of the battle of Rome and then following Sertorius into the west becoming his heir. The Nipii may rise once again…

Gens Octavii
A wealthy and influential political family, the Octavii were strong allies of the sertorii, and they aided each other's rise. The Octavii had numerous connections throughout the city of Rome among the equites, and were commonly the Praetor, but also have secured Consulship twice in history as well as governorships in cisalpine gaul. The Octavii carefully maneuvered the dangerous political battlefield, never have been assassinated, always working from within the shadows to emerge on top.

Gens Marcii
The family history of the Marcii is a winding but tragic one as well. Over the course of history they have influential, holding 4 consulships and their most famous moment was commanding the sack of Carthage, however Africanus fell to a plague and was later utterly disgraced by being implicated in treasonous plot with the Antonines. Rising from this misfortune they switched parties to the Populares and became a decisive element in the civil war by granting support in return for rule over the Asian provinces. But once again, the head of the family died, this time in battle, reducing the family to mediocrity.

Gens Paulli
The Paulli are a notoriously wealthy but also greedy roman family. They rose to power after falling out with Potestatem party by making deals with the Populares to rule wealthy provinces as long as they turned a blind eye to their corruption. Amassing huge sums, the Paulli were never in Rome for most of their history. But this is not to say they are without merit, for they helped bring roman civilization to cisalpine gaul, and were large bankrollers of the populare movement. In the civil war they grew more ambitious seeking military commands as admirals and growing closer to the Sertorian faction.

At least I am still part of the wealthy 1% Tier
Gens Numetorii
A once more powerful family in the early republic and leader of the notable third party, ripam alexandrie, the untimely death of the head of the family ended this movement. Later on, the Numetorii aligned themselves with Potestatem, but their high status was degraded by being on the losing side of the civil war. The Numetorii have held 4 Consulships, numerous other political positions and were known as saviors of Rome from the Germans and victors against the notorious Viriathus in their brightest moment.

Gens Caetronii
The Caetronii have always been defenders of the roman state, military leaders, above political factionalism. Over the course of history they have held 5 consulships and 1 dictatorship. The Caetronii were known as victors over gauls in early times, but were most influential in the mid republic reaching an apex under Lucius who defeated the Spanish revolts as well as the pirates, guiding Rome through a turbulent political time as a neutral player. In the late republic their fortunes fell as Lucius grew old and his heirs could not defend the republic from the populares. Even so, the Caetronii are a continuing strong presence in the roman state.


At least I am not dead Tier
Gens Cornelli Scipiones
An old and active family, their fortunes rose to supreme heights in the early republic as conquers of Illyria and climaxed with their 1 consulship. Later though they were politically destroyed by the Populares and then fell into obscurity, and when Gnaeus began to rise he was struck down by plague. In the late republic Metellus was known as the most stalwart defender of the senate and fought until the last at Africa.

Gens Varii
From plebian origins, the Varii rose from the lower classes to the senate with the support of the Potestatem party (by giving them huge sums of money). The Varii reached their apex in a consulship with the Numetorii, after defeating a huge german horde in pannonia. After this moment of glory they began to fade as their wealth dried up and the Potestatem lost political power. After the battle of rome they surrendered to the populares but despite this were still executed due to hatred against them from the Marians. Even so, the Varii have not been utterly destroyed as the family still lives on as their recent son has been spared by the now more merciful populare senate due to the passage of time.

Gens Pedii
Plebians like the Varii, the Pedii rose to political relevance in a dangerous political era. With civil war imminent, they were thrust into hard decisions. A marriage alliance almost occurred with the Rexii potentially earning the favor of the populares but this ultimately broken down and the Pedii backed the Senate to their ultimate doom. Despite donating their entire fortune to the senatorial cause, this was not enough as the senatorial forces failed three times in battle. Escaping from the populare onslaught as governer of narbonese Gaul, the Pedii were finally captured after the Senatorial defeat in Africa and exiled.

Losers - families fallen from power, or traitors, or extinct
Gens Antonia, Gens Phoenicii, Gens Maximii , other people who have dropped out

12.09.2016 - 14:21
Escrito por Tundy, 12.09.2016 at 13:36

Escrito por Phoenix, 12.09.2016 at 13:03

Populares won already so there's no point in playing on


You can always play dirty

I am surprised Rome is still alive...
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12.09.2016 - 14:22
Escrito por Need Mental Help, 12.09.2016 at 14:21

Escrito por Tundy, 12.09.2016 at 13:36

Escrito por Phoenix, 12.09.2016 at 13:03

Populares won already so there's no point in playing on


You can always play dirty

I am surprised Rome is still alive...

Assassination spams ftw xaxa
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12.09.2016 - 14:34
Escrito por Tundy, 12.09.2016 at 13:36

Escrito por Phoenix, 12.09.2016 at 13:03

Populares won already so there's no point in playing on


You can always play dirty


They all have secret body gaurds, no point in even trying assasinations
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12.09.2016 - 15:52
6 on equite
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12.09.2016 - 17:16
Tribunes are love, tribunes are life.

Learn how to use them rather than cry
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12.09.2016 - 17:23
 JF.
3 on an equite

5 to rome
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12.09.2016 - 17:23
Escrito por Aetius, 12.09.2016 at 17:16

Tribunes are love, tribunes are life.

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12.09.2016 - 17:55
50 to rome 90 on an equite
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12.09.2016 - 17:59
Escrito por Azula., 12.09.2016 at 17:55

50 to rome 90 on an equite

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12.09.2016 - 19:22
Open bodyguard

3 on equite
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12.09.2016 - 21:01
Roll
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12.09.2016 - 22:50
==Turn 13: Phase 2 has begun==
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12.09.2016 - 23:37
Vote for me goys, you will be retarded. Remember your friend Asellio
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12.09.2016 - 23:39
Consul Vote
2) Gaius Marius (Pyrrhus ) & Decimus Phoenicus (Phoenix)

Censor Vote
2)Caspiel Rex Secundus (Darth.)

Praetor Vote
1)Tiberius Octavius (aurum.))

Who will command the 3rd Punic Wart?
1) Consul Caspiel Rex Secundus (Darth.) [Populares]

Who will command the Spanish Revolts?
2)Decimus Phoenicus (Phoenix) [Potestatem]

Levying Forces
1)6 legions

Force Deployments
2)same as above except all new legions to spain

Sertorian Land Bill Tier I (-20 talents, -1 unrest)
Sponsor: Quintus Sertorius (Aetius)(will gain +2 popularity if it passes)
Co-Sponsor: Gaius Marius (Pyrrhus ) (will gain +1 popularity if it passes)
1) Aye



Harbor Fees 5
Publius Numertorius (JF)
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12.09.2016 - 23:52

Assassination Attempt

Decimus Phoenicus hears a crash as his front door is smashed open in the middle of the night. A mob led by a masked man enters and begins killing the house slaves as they rush into his bedroom. Decimus grabs his sword but there are too many enemies and he is beaten to death along with his wife. A terrible crime committed against a noble family.

Roll: 5
Result: Decimus Phoenicus (Phoenix) is dead
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12.09.2016 - 23:58
Consul Sertorius speaks

"I have received news of a great tragedy, Decimus of the Phoenicii has been murdered in his own home! . Our investigators are seeking the culprit but as of yet he is unknown. Rome has become a dangerous place, I advise all senators to take all necessary safety precautions and hire your own bodyguard force as I have done!

Due to his death, I will replace his position in the ballot with Gaius Marcus (Pheonixking929 )"



Consul Vote
1) Galerius Nipius Africanus ( Death1816) & Julianus Antonius (El Tundero)


Censor Vote
1)Quintus Sertorius (Aetius)


Praetor Vote
1)Tiberius Octavius (aurum.)


Who will command the 3rd Punic Wart?
1) Consul Caspiel Rex Secundus (Darth.) [Populares]

Who will command the Spanish Revolts?
2) Gaius Marius (Pyrrhus ) [Populares]

Levying Forces
1)6 legions

Force Deployments
1)Legio II, Legio VII, Legio IX, Legio VIII, 4 legions to Africa +half new legions raised
half new legions raised sent to spain

Sertorian Land Bill Tier I (-20 talents, -1 unrest)
Sponsor: Quintus Sertorius (Aetius)(will gain +2 popularity if it passes)
Co-Sponsor: Caspiel Rex Secundus (Darth.) (will gain +1 popularity if it passes)
1) Aye

Harbor Fees 5 (+3 talents but a land bill must be in effect)
Gaius Marius (Pyrrhus ) [Populares] +14 votes, backed by Caspiel Rex Secundus (Darth.)
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13.09.2016 - 01:09


Friends, Romans, countrymen, lend me your ears;
Our great friend Phoenicius has been murdered by the locust that plagues Rome;
For Ambition is a well known plague that dwells in the hearts of men.
Those who seek power and conspire to destroy Rome are at this very moment:
conspirators and members of a Unholy covenant, they call themselves populares;
they love to murder for political gain, such was the faith of my beloved friend Phoenicius.
Yet they have the audacity to proclaim themselves Popular men, they are no better than vultures that prey upon the weakness of the Roman state.

Yesterday my good friend Phoenicius raised his concerns about the well being of the republic;
yet there he is: nothing but a rotting body that was butchered for trying to do acts in good will.
Members of the faction Populares have shown that friends of Rome they are not;
Otherwise how and why those who speak with truth in their hearts are butchered during the night?
Was this not the case with Numertorius too?
Populares is rotten to the core, a faction full of ambitious and corrupted souls,
Vultures and Locust that are within the walls of Rome,
they are disgusting men that will do their best to seize power;
even if their actions could turn into their last.

But do hear me out for i come not, friends, to steal away your hearts:
I am no orator, as Sertorius is;
But, as you know me all, a plain blunt man,
That love my friend; and that they know full well
That gave me public leave to speak of him:
For I have neither wit, nor words, nor worth,
Action, nor utterance, nor the power of speech,
To stir men's blood: I only speak right on;
I tell you that which you yourselves do know;
Rome has Tyrants at the Door.
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13.09.2016 - 03:36
Aetius the concessions are wrong. I'm backing Pyrrhus not myself lol

Also Tunder, nice killing Phoenix and JF and framing Populares to try and get power.
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13.09.2016 - 03:40
Consul Vote
2) Gaius Marius (Pyrrhus ) & Gaius Marcus (Pheonixking929 )


Censor Vote
2)Caspiel Rex Secundus (Darth.)

Praetor Vote
1)Tiberius Octavius (aurum.)

Who will command the 3rd Punic Wart?
Abstain

Who will command the Spanish Revolts?
2) Gaius Marius (Pyrrhus ) [Populares]

Levying Forces
Abstain

Force Deployments
Abstain

Sertorian Land Bill Tier I (-20 talents, -1 unrest)
Sponsor: Quintus Sertorius (Aetius)(will gain +2 popularity if it passes)
Co-Sponsor: Caspiel Rex Secundus (Darth.) (will gain +1 popularity if it passes)
1) Aye

Harbor Fees 5 (+3 talents but a land bill must be in effect)

*Gaius Marius (Pyrrhus ) backed by Caspiel Rex Secundus
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13.09.2016 - 04:14
Consul: 1
Censor: 2
Praetor: 2
Punic War: 2
Spanish Revolt: 1
Levying: 1
Force Deployment: 2
Land Bill: 2
Harbour Fees: Abstain
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13.09.2016 - 07:13
Wont be rejoining. Died 3 times and miles behind everyone else. I tried to save Spain and earn some money in the process but lazy decisions were made.
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13.09.2016 - 07:27
Escrito por Phoenix, 13.09.2016 at 07:13

Wont be rejoining. Died 3 times and miles behind everyone else. I tried to save Spain and earn some money in the process but lazy decisions were made.

You're a fricken Phoenix, you die and get reborn
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Everyone is living a myth and it's important to know what yours is. It could be a tragedy- and maybe you don't want it to be.
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13.09.2016 - 07:30
Escrito por Pheonixking929, 13.09.2016 at 07:27

Escrito por Phoenix, 13.09.2016 at 07:13

Wont be rejoining. Died 3 times and miles behind everyone else. I tried to save Spain and earn some money in the process but lazy decisions were made.

You're a fricken Phoenix, you die and get reborn


I'll be reborn in the next game. Populares have won, they just need to end it
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13.09.2016 - 07:38
Escrito por Phoenix, 13.09.2016 at 07:13

Wont be rejoining. Died 3 times and miles behind everyone else. I tried to save Spain and earn some money in the process but lazy decisions were made.

When late Republic comes around, everyone will be mostly even then. Hang around till then I guess. Besides Potestatem has gained members equal in number to us and they're hardly out of the game yet.
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13.09.2016 - 08:54
Escrito por Darth., 13.09.2016 at 03:36

Aetius the concessions are wrong. I'm backing Pyrrhus not myself lol

Also Tunder, nice killing Phoenix and JF and framing Populares to try and get power.


Both Aetius and Aurum bought Open bodyguards, this was obviously a premeditated act. Populares is afraid of retaliation due to their mischief. Murderous Sertorius and his faction strike again.
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13.09.2016 - 11:35
Escrito por Darth., 13.09.2016 at 07:38

Escrito por Phoenix, 13.09.2016 at 07:13

Wont be rejoining. Died 3 times and miles behind everyone else. I tried to save Spain and earn some money in the process but lazy decisions were made.

When late Republic comes around, everyone will be mostly even then. Hang around till then I guess. Besides Potestatem has gained members equal in number to us and they're hardly out of the game yet.


We're not organised, we cant win
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13.09.2016 - 12:20
Consul Vote
2) Gaius Marius (Pyrrhus ) & Gaius Marcus (Pheonixking929 )


Censor Vote
1)Quintus Sertorius (Aetius)


Praetor Vote
1)Tiberius Octavius (aurum.)


Who will command the 3rd Punic Wart?
1) Consul Caspiel Rex Secundus (Darth.) [Populares]

Who will command the Spanish Revolts?
2) Gaius Marius (Pyrrhus ) [Populares]

Levying Forces
1)6 legions

Force Deployments
1)Legio II, Legio VII, Legio IX, Legio VIII, 4 legions to Africa +half new legions raised
half new legions raised sent to spain

Sertorian Land Bill Tier I (-20 talents, -1 unrest)
Sponsor: Quintus Sertorius (Aetius)(will gain +2 popularity if it passes)
Co-Sponsor: Caspiel Rex Secundus (Darth.) (will gain +1 popularity if it passes)
1) Aye

Harbor Fees 5 (+3 talents but a land bill must be in effect)
Gaius Marius (Pyrrhus )
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13.09.2016 - 12:23

Assassination Attempt

Soon after Antonius finishes speaking he is approached by a group of men and attacked suddenly with knives. Able to throw his toga at them he runs fast into the crowd and escapes his would be assassins.

Roll: 3 (+1 from card) =4
Result: Assassination attempt fails on Tunder but perpetrator escapes
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13.09.2016 - 12:26
Escrito por Phoenix, 13.09.2016 at 07:30


I'll be reborn in the next game. Populares have won, they just need to end it


There won't be a next game at this rate.

I have felt next to no challenge politically from the other party. What point is there in playing when players won't use means available to them to fight back and instead sink into so easily into defeatism and navel gazing? If we remade we would just beat you again. Stand up. If you thought this was some kind of co-op game to conquer the barbarians (other than in early republic) you are wrong, its a game to achieve political control. I don't take any of it personally but when people throw the game it bothers me. The other faction has lots of resources, more votes, and great potential to regain its strength atm. Neutrals could have also formed a third party but they don't seem capable of organizing.
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13.09.2016 - 12:28
Escrito por Aetius, 13.09.2016 at 12:23

[...]Able to throw his toga at them he runs fast into the crowd[...]

He threw his toga at them?? Did he run away naked??
Senator Rex condemns all the assassination spams occurring these past few turns. This is Rome not an empire of barbarians like the Britons and the Gauls.
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