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Will the US government have a good 'ole shutdown tonight?

Of course!
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No!
11

Total de votos: 26
19.01.2018 - 18:11
Ayy what's gonna happen
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20.01.2018 - 00:26
 Sid (Administrador)
Yeah, hopefully it doesn't for long though.
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20.01.2018 - 00:32
Tired of fucking democrats holding our government hostage as a bargaining chip for social reforms.
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20.01.2018 - 01:17
Escrito por Sid, 20.01.2018 at 00:26

Yeah, hopefully it doesn't for long though.

Same, so much money is being lost in the economy. If I remember correctly, the last shutdown was 16 days and made the economy lose $20 billion
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20.01.2018 - 01:18
Escrito por Helly, 20.01.2018 at 00:32

Tired of fucking democrats holding our government hostage as a bargaining chip for social reforms.

I concur. I don't understand why they wish to reward folks who undermined out existing laws
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20.01.2018 - 01:48
 Witch-Doctor (Mod)
Escrito por Helly, 20.01.2018 at 00:32

Tired of fucking democrats holding our government hostage as a bargaining chip for social reforms.


Stfu moron. Republicans control all three branches of the government. But dem "librulz" somehow is still at fault in your world.
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20.01.2018 - 12:27
Escrito por Witch-Doctor, 20.01.2018 at 01:48

Escrito por Helly, 20.01.2018 at 00:32

Tired of fucking democrats holding our government hostage as a bargaining chip for social reforms.


Stfu moron. Republicans control all three branches of the government. But dem "librulz" somehow is still at fault in your world.

Hun, senate needed 60 votes and the Republicans have 51 seats. Sure they're in control, but not by enough to pass everything without Dem support. Though, not all repubs voted yes and not all dems voted no so we can just blame both sides
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20.01.2018 - 16:17
 Witch-Doctor (Mod)
Escrito por Dereny, 20.01.2018 at 12:27

Escrito por Witch-Doctor, 20.01.2018 at 01:48

Escrito por Helly, 20.01.2018 at 00:32

Tired of fucking democrats holding our government hostage as a bargaining chip for social reforms.


Stfu moron. Republicans control all three branches of the government. But dem "librulz" somehow is still at fault in your world.

Hun, senate needed 60 votes and the Republicans have 51 seats. Sure they're in control, but not by enough to pass everything without Dem support. Though, not all repubs voted yes and not all dems voted no so we can just blame both sides

The senate doesnt need 60 votes wtf are you going on about. They need a simple majority unless to override a presidential veto.

Go choke on fox news some more.
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20.01.2018 - 17:34
Wait what?why? what happened
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20.01.2018 - 17:42
Escrito por AlBoZzZ, 20.01.2018 at 17:34

Wait what?why? what happened

They needed to pass a budget in order to continue to operate, democrats won't votes yes unless the Republicans pass the Dreamers Act, republicans refuse,democrats shut down the government for foreigners. Now all none essential government employees where sent home. Aswell the military stays put untill the crises is averted.
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20.01.2018 - 19:39
Escrito por Witch-Doctor, 20.01.2018 at 16:17

The senate doesnt need 60 votes wtf are you going on about. They need a simple majority unless to override a presidential veto.

Go choke on fox news some more.

Not in this case, but if you refuse to believe facts go ahead and keep your hand in the sand. Seriously though, you're a google search away from the truth.
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20.01.2018 - 19:46
Escrito por AlBoZzZ, 20.01.2018 at 17:34

Wait what?why? what happened

In addition to what Helly said, the shutdown is kinda a continuation of months of budget delays. For the last few months, Congress has just been funding the government for weeks at a time to avoid a shutdown. There's been disagreements on what should be funded so last night the House passed a temporary bill to keep the government open, but the senate failed to secure 60 votes for the bill so it never passed. All non essential federal employees are furloughed until a bill is passed. This includes national parks, museums, etc. Some essential services that will stay open include active military and intelligence personnel. If I remember correctly, reserve folks get furloughed until the gov is back. Some of these folks might lose out on their paychecks though including those still working.

This has happened before.I think the last one was in 2013 and I think
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20.01.2018 - 20:35
 Witch-Doctor (Mod)
Escrito por Helly, 20.01.2018 at 17:42

Escrito por AlBoZzZ, 20.01.2018 at 17:34

Wait what?why? what happened

They needed to pass a budget in order to continue to operate, democrats won't votes yes unless the Republicans pass the Dreamers Act, republicans refuse,democrats shut down the government for foreigners. Now all none essential government employees where sent home. Aswell the military stays put untill the crises is averted.


Gtfo republicans are all to blame. They hold the majority so whatever the democrats want should be irrelevant
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20.01.2018 - 21:10
Escrito por Witch-Doctor, 20.01.2018 at 20:35

Escrito por Helly, 20.01.2018 at 17:42

Escrito por AlBoZzZ, 20.01.2018 at 17:34

Wait what?why? what happened

They needed to pass a budget in order to continue to operate, democrats won't votes yes unless the Republicans pass the Dreamers Act, republicans refuse,democrats shut down the government for foreigners. Now all none essential government employees where sent home. Aswell the military stays put untill the crises is averted.


Gtfo republicans are all to blame. They hold the majority so whatever the democrats want should be irrelevant

they need 60 votes, they have a 51 to 49 majority, 6 republicans voted against there party no demcrats voted against theres, they need 15 more votes to pass, and democraps wont budge untill the dreamer act is passed.
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20.01.2018 - 21:13
Witch Doctor doesn't know what he's talking about, what a surprise
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20.01.2018 - 21:13
Escrito por Witch-Doctor, 20.01.2018 at 01:48

Escrito por Helly, 20.01.2018 at 00:32

Tired of fucking democrats holding our government hostage as a bargaining chip for social reforms.


Stfu moron. Republicans control all three branches of the government. But dem "librulz" somehow is still at fault in your world.


Dude, I'm a pretty tolerant peep but you're the most cancerous liberal downie I've ever seen roaming around. Before being an ultralibcuck and accuse people go check the 60 vote majority, which btw is truthful.

2nd, your Democratic Party is holding the Government Hostage to pursue their agenda. National Interest, Common Sense and non-cancer-filled brains and egos would dictate that Shutdown would be averted at all costs in the name of National Interest, and politics wouldcome after, because Nation is the supreme value to all other petty stuff like political quarrels.

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You americans and your system are retarded as shit. What fucking country has such cancerous State Budget approval system like yours? Your system favours chronical shutdown possibilities and Politicians to hold the State and the Government hostage and that should not happen.

In portugal, our constitution states that If no State Budget is approved, the Budget from the previous year will be applied in duodecimal's system. Much better, avoids confusion, instability and economy losses of great extent. This isn't just a mere opinion I've expressed but it's the opinion of most Constitutionalists, that blame your faulty system for he Shutdowns and state of inefficiency of your Federal Government that and the fact your Constitution is retarded, outdated and hyperigid, which makes it shit.
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20.01.2018 - 23:18
 Witch-Doctor (Mod)
Escrito por Viruslegion, 20.01.2018 at 21:13

Witch Doctor doesn't know what he's talking about, what a surprise



And a roleplayer noob like you do?
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20.01.2018 - 23:19
 Witch-Doctor (Mod)
Escrito por Helly, 20.01.2018 at 21:10

Escrito por Witch-Doctor, 20.01.2018 at 20:35

Escrito por Helly, 20.01.2018 at 17:42

Escrito por AlBoZzZ, 20.01.2018 at 17:34

Wait what?why? what happened

They needed to pass a budget in order to continue to operate, democrats won't votes yes unless the Republicans pass the Dreamers Act, republicans refuse,democrats shut down the government for foreigners. Now all none essential government employees where sent home. Aswell the military stays put untill the crises is averted.


Gtfo republicans are all to blame. They hold the majority so whatever the democrats want should be irrelevant

they need 60 votes, they have a 51 to 49 majority, 6 republicans voted against there party no demcrats voted against theres, they need 15 more votes to pass, and democraps wont budge untill the dreamer act is
passed.



Pfft nobody cried when the obstructionist republicans shut down the government during Obama
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20.01.2018 - 23:20
 Witch-Doctor (Mod)
Escrito por Al Fappino, 20.01.2018 at 21:13

Escrito por Witch-Doctor, 20.01.2018 at 01:48

Escrito por Helly, 20.01.2018 at 00:32

Tired of fucking democrats holding our government hostage as a bargaining chip for social reforms.


Stfu moron. Republicans control all three branches of the government. But dem "librulz" somehow is still at fault in your world.


Dude, I'm a pretty tolerant peep but you're the most cancerous liberal downie I've ever seen roaming around. Before being an ultralibcuck and accuse people go check the 60 vote majority, which btw is truthful.

2nd, your Democratic Party is holding the Government Hostage to pursue their agenda. National Interest, Common Sense and non-cancer-filled brains and egos would dictate that Shutdown would be averted at all costs in the name of National Interest, and politics wouldcome after, because Nation is the supreme value to all other petty stuff like political quarrels.

3rd


You americans and your system are retarded as shit. What fucking country has such cancerous State Budget approval system like yours? Your system favours chronical shutdown possibilities and Politicians to hold the State and the Government hostage and that should not happen.

In portugal, our constitution states that If no State Budget is approved, the Budget from the previous year will be applied in duodecimal's system. Much better, avoids confusion, instability and economy losses of great extent. This isn't just a mere opinion I've expressed but it's the opinion of most Constitutionalists, that blame your faulty system for he Shutdowns and state of inefficiency of your Federal Government that and the fact your Constitution is retarded, outdated
and hyperigid, which makes it shit.


Dont tell us how to run our country europoors
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20.01.2018 - 23:21
Escrito por Witch-Doctor, 20.01.2018 at 23:19

Escrito por Helly, 20.01.2018 at 21:10

Escrito por Witch-Doctor, 20.01.2018 at 20:35

Escrito por Helly, 20.01.2018 at 17:42

Escrito por AlBoZzZ, 20.01.2018 at 17:34

Wait what?why? what happened

They needed to pass a budget in order to continue to operate, democrats won't votes yes unless the Republicans pass the Dreamers Act, republicans refuse,democrats shut down the government for foreigners. Now all none essential government employees where sent home. Aswell the military stays put untill the crises is averted.


Gtfo republicans are all to blame. They hold the majority so whatever the democrats want should be irrelevant

they need 60 votes, they have a 51 to 49 majority, 6 republicans voted against there party no demcrats voted against theres, they need 15 more votes to pass, and democraps wont budge untill the dreamer act is
passed.



Pfft nobody cried when the obstructionist republicans shut down the government during Obama

Because they never did, that was the democrats who always try to use government budgeting as a bargaining chip to pass other wise unpassable legislature.
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20.01.2018 - 23:23
 Witch-Doctor (Mod)
Escrito por Helly, 20.01.2018 at 23:21

Escrito por Witch-Doctor, 20.01.2018 at 23:19

Escrito por Helly, 20.01.2018 at 21:10

Escrito por Witch-Doctor, 20.01.2018 at 20:35

Escrito por Helly, 20.01.2018 at 17:42

Escrito por AlBoZzZ, 20.01.2018 at 17:34

Wait what?why? what happened

They needed to pass a budget in order to continue to operate, democrats won't votes yes unless the Republicans pass the Dreamers Act, republicans refuse,democrats shut down the government for foreigners. Now all none essential government employees where sent home. Aswell the military stays put untill the crises is averted.


Gtfo republicans are all to blame. They hold the majority so whatever the democrats want should be irrelevant

they need 60 votes, they have a 51 to 49 majority, 6 republicans voted against there party no demcrats voted against theres, they need 15 more votes to pass, and democraps wont budge untill the dreamer act is
passed.



Pfft nobody cried when the obstructionist republicans shut down the government during Obama

Because they never did, that was the democrats who always try to use government budgeting as a bargaining chip to pass other wise unpassable legislature.


Republicans refused to budge so they shut down the government? See how shitty your argument is when it is flipped ?
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20.01.2018 - 23:24
Escrito por Witch-Doctor, 20.01.2018 at 23:23

Escrito por Helly, 20.01.2018 at 23:21

Escrito por Witch-Doctor, 20.01.2018 at 23:19

Escrito por Helly, 20.01.2018 at 21:10

Escrito por Witch-Doctor, 20.01.2018 at 20:35

Escrito por Helly, 20.01.2018 at 17:42

Escrito por AlBoZzZ, 20.01.2018 at 17:34

Wait what?why? what happened

They needed to pass a budget in order to continue to operate, democrats won't votes yes unless the Republicans pass the Dreamers Act, republicans refuse,democrats shut down the government for foreigners. Now all none essential government employees where sent home. Aswell the military stays put untill the crises is averted.


Gtfo republicans are all to blame. They hold the majority so whatever the democrats want should be irrelevant

they need 60 votes, they have a 51 to 49 majority, 6 republicans voted against there party no demcrats voted against theres, they need 15 more votes to pass, and democraps wont budge untill the dreamer act is
passed.



Pfft nobody cried when the obstructionist republicans shut down the government during Obama

Because they never did, that was the democrats who always try to use government budgeting as a bargaining chip to pass other wise unpassable legislature.


Republicans refused to budge so they shut down the government? See how shitty your argument is when it is flipped ?

It never happened. That's why all three times this has happened is because the democrats forced it to happen.
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20.01.2018 - 23:27
 Witch-Doctor (Mod)
Escrito por Helly, 20.01.2018 at 23:24

Escrito por Witch-Doctor, 20.01.2018 at 23:23

Escrito por Helly, 20.01.2018 at 23:21

Escrito por Witch-Doctor, 20.01.2018 at 23:19

Escrito por Helly, 20.01.2018 at 21:10

Escrito por Witch-Doctor, 20.01.2018 at 20:35

Escrito por Helly, 20.01.2018 at 17:42

Escrito por AlBoZzZ, 20.01.2018 at 17:34

Wait what?why? what happened

They needed to pass a budget in order to continue to operate, democrats won't votes yes unless the Republicans pass the Dreamers Act, republicans refuse,democrats shut down the government for foreigners. Now all none essential government employees where sent home. Aswell the military stays put untill the crises is averted.


Gtfo republicans are all to blame. They hold the majority so whatever the democrats want should be irrelevant

they need 60 votes, they have a 51 to 49 majority, 6 republicans voted against there party no demcrats voted against theres, they need 15 more votes to pass, and democraps wont budge untill the dreamer act is
passed.



Pfft nobody cried when the obstructionist republicans shut down the government during Obama

Because they never did, that was the democrats who always try to use government budgeting as a bargaining chip to pass other wise unpassable legislature.


Republicans refused to budge so they shut down the government? See how shitty your argument is when it is flipped ?

It never happened. That's why all three times this has happened is because the democrats forced it to
happen.


Keep bandwagoning on the "everyone who disagree with me is a librulz" train.

I like the cognitive dissonance required to always blame the democrats while giving the otherside a golden pass to do whatever
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21.01.2018 - 06:39
Escrito por Al Fappino, 20.01.2018 at 21:13


In portugal, our constitution states that If no State Budget is approved, the Budget from the previous year will be applied in duodecimal's system. Much better, avoids confusion, instability and economy losses of great extent. This isn't just a mere opinion I've expressed but it's the opinion of most Constitutionalists, that blame your faulty system for he Shutdowns and state of inefficiency of your Federal Government that and the fact your Constitution is retarded, outdated and hyperigid, which makes it shit.

I actually like that rule. I know in PA, we went almost two years without passing a budget so they just had to borrow money to fund the government until a budget passed which just cost even more in the long run
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21.01.2018 - 12:05
You're ok, Germany is without government for 4 months, and if i remember correctly, Belgium didn't had government for 6 months few years back.
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21.01.2018 - 12:05
Escrito por Al Fappino, 20.01.2018 at 21:13

In portugal, our constitution states that If no State Budget is approved, the Budget from the previous year will be applied in duodecimal's system. Much better, avoids confusion, instability and economy losses of great extent. This isn't just a mere opinion I've expressed but it's the opinion of most Constitutionalists, that blame your faulty system for he Shutdowns and state of inefficiency of your Federal Government that and the fact your Constitution is retarded, outdated and hyperigid, which makes it shit.


Muh portugal
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21.01.2018 - 13:50
Escrito por Skanderbeg, 21.01.2018 at 12:05

Escrito por Al Fappino, 20.01.2018 at 21:13

In portugal, our constitution states that If no State Budget is approved, the Budget from the previous year will be applied in duodecimal's system. Much better, avoids confusion, instability and economy losses of great extent. This isn't just a mere opinion I've expressed but it's the opinion of most Constitutionalists, that blame your faulty system for he Shutdowns and state of inefficiency of your Federal Government that and the fact your Constitution is retarded, outdated and hyperigid, which makes it shit.


Muh portugal


Muh Portugal can get over those crisis easily than the #1 Economy in the world (for now), it's sad
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21.01.2018 - 13:52
Escrito por Skanderbeg, 21.01.2018 at 12:05

You're ok, Germany is without government for 4 months, and if i remember correctly, Belgium didn't had government for 6 months few years back.


Actually, Belgium was without a government for 1/2 years at one time, and Spain had no Government either for 10months or something.

The concept of having no government is kinda interesting. The current governments in those situations are basically what we call Management Governments, they keep the country afloat and take necessary decisions but they are barred by their Constitution to take crucial decisions and huge policy-making breakthroughs, that's pretty much why it's negative, nobody wants a restricted government.
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21.01.2018 - 13:54
Escrito por Al Fappino, 21.01.2018 at 13:50

Escrito por Skanderbeg, 21.01.2018 at 12:05

Escrito por Al Fappino, 20.01.2018 at 21:13

In portugal, our constitution states that If no State Budget is approved, the Budget from the previous year will be applied in duodecimal's system. Much better, avoids confusion, instability and economy losses of great extent. This isn't just a mere opinion I've expressed but it's the opinion of most Constitutionalists, that blame your faulty system for he Shutdowns and state of inefficiency of your Federal Government that and the fact your Constitution is retarded, outdated and hyperigid, which makes it shit.


Muh portugal


Muh Portugal can get over those crisis easily than the #1 Economy in the world (for now), it's sad


Escrito por Dereny, 21.01.2018 at 06:39


I actually like that rule. I know in PA, we went almost two years without passing a budget so they just had to borrow money to fund the government until a budget passed which just cost even more in the long run


I know right? much more efficient, you americans like to make things stupidly complicated, hence why the general public is dumb as a brick
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21.01.2018 - 13:59
A shutdown falls on the President's lack of leadership. He can't even control his party and get people together in a room. A shutdown means the President is weak.
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