Greece?

Escrito por JUGERS2, 05.07.2021 at 15:47

Escrito por Oleg, 05.07.2021 at 15:17

I will finish my participation in this topic by an easy example:
When someone asks 'What's your name', and you say 'Constantine', no one will come and say to you 'No, you can't be Constantine, you are 'Mehmet'.
Similiar thing it with nationality, you personally decide how you feel. If you feel like Greek, no one has right to negate you the right to feel like Greek. Even if I felt and wanted to declare myself as Greek, no one can negate me that right. Negating such rights is called fascism.

I feel British, i declare British. Waiting my British passport pm for adress

Well, no one stops you from declaring as British in Albania on census, or am I wrong? The other thing is British papers on its own.

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Reality is since ancient times all peoples mixed and migrated especially in the Balkans.
What is wrong is Modern Greeks saying here they are the same people as ancient Greeks and that is okay but Macedonians can't claim that because they mixed with Slavs?
Do you know Slavs migrated to modern day Greece as well and did so as south as Peloponnese Peninsula?
So they magically killed and replaced all nations north of Greece but couldn't do the same in modern day Greece ?
Of course not , the reality is they came and they mixed and intermarried with Illyrians , Dacians , ancient Macedonians , ancient Greeks and others that were living here.
And also not to mention after that the Ottomans came who would settle and mix with the whole Balkan for 400+ years and as recently after WW2 the Turks were the biggest minority and majority in the Balkan States.


Also Zephy just saying that IMRO was Bulgarian tells you how uninformed he is and probably not even serious about this topic.
(IMRO literally means Internal Macedonian Revolutionary Organization and their goal was to create a free and independent Macedonian state , not Bulgarian.)
Goce Delchev , one of the best known revolutionaries of that time died 1903 and rests in Skopje not in Sofia do you know why?
Because when he died he wanted his grave to be in the capital of a Macedonian nation if it ever formed.
He promoted the "Macedonia for the Macedonians" idea as well as many of the organizations members , while Bulgaria already was a free state by this point
and if they were really Bulgarians they would promote seceding the region to Bulgaria and founding an organization for free west Bulgaria or something similar.

For the freedom and glory of Greece!!

Escrito por Ghostface, 09.07.2021 at 06:53

Reality is since ancient times all peoples mixed and migrated especially in the Balkans.
What is wrong is Modern Greeks saying here they are the same people as ancient Greeks and that is okay but Macedonians can't claim that because they mixed with Slavs?
Do you know Slavs migrated to modern day Greece as well and did so as south as Peloponnese Peninsula?
So they magically killed and replaced all nations north of Greece but couldn't do the same in modern day Greece ?
Of course not , the reality is they came and they mixed and intermarried with Illyrians , Dacians , ancient Macedonians , ancient Greeks and others that were living here.
And also not to mention after that the Ottomans came who would settle and mix with the whole Balkan for 400+ years and as recently after WW2 the Turks were the biggest minority and majority in the Balkan States.


Also Zephy just saying that IMRO was Bulgarian tells you how uninformed he is and probably not even serious about this topic.
(IMRO literally means Internal Macedonian Revolutionary Organization and their goal was to create a free and independent Macedonian state , not Bulgarian.)
Goce Delchev , one of the best known revolutionaries of that time died 1903 and rests in Skopje not in Sofia do you know why?
Because when he died he wanted his grave to be in the capital of a Macedonian nation if it ever formed.
He promoted the "Macedonia for the Macedonians" idea as well as many of the organizations members , while Bulgaria already was a free state by this point
and if they were really Bulgarians they would promote seceding the region to Bulgaria and founding an organization for free west Bulgaria or something similar.

The thing is that you guys eating propaganda from ur young ages in ur schools and in your books!
You guys can't understand that Macedonia and Macedons was and is Greek land and Greek indenity!!
Macedonia was and is an part of Hellenic nation, same as, Athenians, Lacedemonians, salamis, epirots, thraces, cretens, ithakians, and many ancient Greek city states!
All Greeks never was united after Alexander's campaign, Alexander the great united all Greek city states for the first time in history, he wanted revenge from the Persians, cause as we know Persians tried to invite in Greece many times!
SO DON'T COMFUSE YOUR MINDS!!
SLAVS IS SLAVS THERE NO INDENITY WHO SAID SLAVS ARE ANCIENT GREEK RACE!!!
STOP STEALING GREEK HISTORY
thank you!

Escrito por Bella Ciao, 09.07.2021 at 13:29

The thing is that you guys eating propaganda from ur young ages in ur schools and in your books!
You guys can't understand that Macedonia and Macedons was and is Greek land and Greek indenity!!
Macedonia was and is an part of Hellenic nation, same as, Athenians, Lacedemonians, salamis, epirots, thraces, cretens, ithakians, and many ancient Greek city states!
All Greeks never was united after Alexander's campaign, Alexander the great united all Greek city states for the first time in history, he wanted revenge from the Persians, cause as we know Persians tried to invite in Greece many times!
SO DON'T COMFUSE YOUR MINDS!!
SLAVS IS SLAVS THERE NO INDENITY WHO SAID SLAVS ARE ANCIENT GREEK RACE!!!
STOP STEALING GREEK HISTORY
thank you!

Talking about propaganda from young ages in school and books

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The thing is that you guys eating propaganda from ur young ages in ur schools and in your books!
You guys can't understand that Macedonia and Macedons was and is Greek land and Greek indenity!!
Macedonia was and is an part of Hellenic nation, same as, Athenians, Lacedemonians, salamis, epirots, thraces, cretens, ithakians, and many ancient Greek city states!
All Greeks never was united after Alexander's campaign, Alexander the great united all Greek city states for the first time in history, he wanted revenge from the Persians, cause as we know Persians tried to invite in Greece many times!
SO DON'T COMFUSE YOUR MINDS!!
SLAVS IS SLAVS THERE NO INDENITY WHO SAID SLAVS ARE ANCIENT GREEK RACE!!!
STOP STEALING GREEK HISTORY
thank you!

imagine saying someone else is eating propaganda while you yourself proclaim greater greece. ahum greek race.
anyone with average iq would see how fooled you have been.

Come on guys, NM doesnt see me as them...

Escrito por Black Swans, 08.07.2021 at 08:47

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greek salad +rakija= rip corona delta variant

Escrito por Ghostface, 09.07.2021 at 06:53

Also Zephy just saying that IMRO was Bulgarian tells you how uninformed he is and probably not even serious about this topic.
(IMRO literally means Internal Macedonian Revolutionary Organization and their goal was to create a free and independent Macedonian state , not Bulgarian.)
Goce Delchev , one of the best known revolutionaries of that time died 1903 and rests in Skopje not in Sofia do you know why?
Because when he died he wanted his grave to be in the capital of a Macedonian nation if it ever formed.
He promoted the "Macedonia for the Macedonians" idea as well as many of the organizations members , while Bulgaria already was a free state by this point
and if they were really Bulgarians they would promote seceding the region to Bulgaria and founding an organization for free west Bulgaria or something similar.

k then, explain Hristo Tatarchev quote.
Or the fact that IMRO was originally called Bulgarian Macedonian-Adrianople Revolutionary Committees
Or the fact that it fought at the side of the Bulgarian army during both Balkan Wars
Or the fact that the organisation disbanded itself during the 1915-1918 Bulgarian annexation of Macedonia only for it to be reestablished in 1920 after Bulgaria lost the land again.
Or the fact that it used schools of the Bulgarian Exarchate as part of its network
Or the letter that Dame Gruev and Boris Sarafov sent to the Bulgarian government during the Ilinden uprising, that said "The general staff considers for its duty to pay attention of the honoured Bulgarian government to the catastrophic consequences for Bulgarian nation, in case the government doesn't fulfill its duty toward its homogeneous brothers here in an impressible and energetic way, imposed by the circumstances and the danger, which threaten Bulgarian fatherland today."
Or Dimitar Vlahov's quote, that said "Firstly the revolutionary organization began to work among the Bulgarian population, even not among the whole of it, but only among this part, which participated in the Bulgarian Exarchate. IMRO treated suspiciously to the Bulgarians, which participated in other churches, as the Greek Patriarchate, the Catholic Church and the Protestant Church. As to the revolutionary activity among the other nationalities as Turks, Albanians, Greeks and Vlahs, such question did not exist for the founders of the organization. These other nationalities were for IMRO foreign people... Later, when the leaders of IMARO saw, that the idea for liberation of Macedonia can find followers among the Bulgarians non-Exarchists, as also among the other nationalities in Macedonia, and under the pressure from IMARO-members with left, socialist or anarchist convictions, they changed the statute of IMARO in sense, that member of IMARO can be any Macedonian, regardless of ethnicity or religious denomination."
Or the fact that Goce Delchev, whom you mentioned, looked up to Bulgarian revolutionaries from Bulgaria proper, or that he studied in the Sts. Cyril and Methodius Bulgarian Men's High School of Thessaloniki (Solunska balgarska mazhka gimnazia „Sv. sv. Kiril i Metodiy"), and called himself Bulgarian, and simply believed in an independent multiethnic Macedonian state that included his fellow Macedonian Bulgarians?
Or the fact that he wasn't even buried in Skopje, as you claim, but in Banitsa, a village in modern Greece near Serres, before his grave was moved by the Bulgarian army during WW2 to Xanthe, then Plovdiv, and then Sofia, before being returned to Banitsa?
How about Petar Poparsov, who moved to Bulgaria after the Balkan Wars, called himself Bulgarian, and repeatedly protested the Serbianisation of Macedonian Bulgarians?
Or Andon Dimitrov and Hristo Batandzhiev, who founded a political party called "Bulgarian Constitutional Clubs"?
Why did all of these people call themselves Bulgarians? And never brought up any ludicrous claims about being descendants of Alexander the Great or god knows what?
It's almost as if they were Bulgarians.

Give greece back to turks. While ur at it, give all balkans back to turks. All this independence did nothing good for them

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Escrito por Zephyrusu, 12.07.2021 at 19:09

Escrito por Ghostface, 09.07.2021 at 06:53

Ok I will start with Goce Delcev first , i think you are just reading the information that is about him on the wiki page where it is incomplete and very wrong about many things.


There was no Macedonian free state back then but like I said Bulgaria was a free state and of course they had their interest and to exert their influence they opened Bulgarian schools in the then still Turkish-held Macedonia and its normal he would study in a Bulgarian school because what were the alternatives ? Turkish or Greek school ?
If I was living in that time period id probably study in a Bulgarian school too , even today there are many people and friends I know that study in Bulgaria because of the economic
incentives or other things their schools are better in but they would never say they are Bulgarian. That is silly logic. If I study in an American University does that make me American?
He proclaimed himself Bulgarian but screamed Macedonia for the Macedonians? There is no such thing as Macedonian Bulgarian you are either one or the other.
Where are these regional Bulgarians today if they existed? How come it was full of them in modern day Macedonian republic and Greek region of Macedonia but they disappeared?
Even if he did look up to those people he might've admired their fight , determination and bravery not their ethnicity or nationality.
He saw how bad life was under Turkish occupation and how life was in a free state like Bulgaria and he admired that.

Petar Pop Arsov protested in the school he was studying in Thessaloniki to replace the Bulgarian language they were studying with a local Macedonian one.
This is why he was expelled from there. He then went to study in Belgrade and was expelled from there for being anti-Serbian then went to Sofia to finish school.
There he was one of the founders of YMLA which wanted Macedonian language to be represented more in these Bulgarian schools in occupied Macedonia.
No surprise here , the Bulgarian government banned both the association and the magazine they had on the grounds of separatism.
BRCC was its own organization and IMRO wasn't originally called BRCC because IMRO was founded 1893. And if you aren't talking about BRCC but rather
you mean BPMARO ( Bulgarian People's Macedonian-Adrianople Revolutionary Organization) , it was founded after IMRO was founded and pretty short lived.
Reality is after the failed 1903 uprising which managed to create a free Macedonian republic but was very short lived , the organization at times was hijacked by the
Bulgarian government to spread influence as so were many other things used when a country is spreading its own propaganda.
Even today Bulgarian government denies existence of Macedonian nation and Macedonian language , they propagate that we are actually Bulgarians but at the same time
they hate us and put a veto against us for joining the EU. They do this in 21th century as they did in 20th and 19th century as well.
These revolutionaries openly fought for a Macedonian nation , wanted Macedonian language in schools and all the while scream Macedonia for the bloody Macedonians
yet are labeled as Bulgarians by their government. What more should they have done to prove they were Macedonian? Tattoo a sun on their forehead ?
Many Macedonians have Bulgarian papers nowadays because Bulgaria is in the EU and it makes it easier to work in the EU because of that and the Bulgarian government also
openly recently claimed that these were also actually Bulgarians and uses this also as a political tool.
There are many other discrepancies in your comments but this comment is already big as it is so I will leave it like this.

But I will only ask what were all these whatever you want to call them Macedonians , Bulgarians or Slavs doing in todays Greek Macedonia region and around Thessalonica?
Its like as if that region was filled with majority of those people and not original Macedonian Greeks or whatever you call them like so many Greeks claim ?

Escrito por Ghostface, 13.07.2021 at 12:07

Ok I will start with Goce Delcev first , i think you are just reading the information that is about him on the wiki page where it is incomplete and very wrong about many things.


There was no Macedonian free state back then but like I said Bulgaria was a free state and of course they had their interest and to exert their influence they opened Bulgarian schools in the then still Turkish-held Macedonia and its normal he would study in a Bulgarian school because what were the alternatives ? Turkish or Greek school ?
If I was living in that time period id probably study in a Bulgarian school too , even today there are many people and friends I know that study in Bulgaria because of the economic
incentives or other things their schools are better in but they would never say they are Bulgarian. That is silly logic. If I study in an American University does that make me American?
He proclaimed himself Bulgarian but screamed Macedonia for the Macedonians? There is no such thing as Macedonian Bulgarian you are either one or the other.
Where are these regional Bulgarians today if they existed? How come it was full of them in modern day Macedonian republic and Greek region of Macedonia but they disappeared?
Even if he did look up to those people he might've admired their fight , determination and bravery not their ethnicity or nationality.
He saw how bad life was under Turkish occupation and how life was in a free state like Bulgaria and he admired that.

Petar Pop Arsov protested in the school he was studying in Thessaloniki to replace the Bulgarian language they were studying with a local Macedonian one.
This is why he was expelled from there. He then went to study in Belgrade and was expelled from there for being anti-Serbian then went to Sofia to finish school.
There he was one of the founders of YMLA which wanted Macedonian language to be represented more in these Bulgarian schools in occupied Macedonia.
No surprise here , the Bulgarian government banned both the association and the magazine they had on the grounds of separatism.
BRCC was its own organization and IMRO wasn't originally called BRCC because IMRO was founded 1893. And if you aren't talking about BRCC but rather
you mean BPMARO ( Bulgarian People's Macedonian-Adrianople Revolutionary Organization) , it was founded after IMRO was founded and pretty short lived.
Reality is after the failed 1903 uprising which managed to create a free Macedonian republic but was very short lived , the organization at times was hijacked by the
Bulgarian government to spread influence as so were many other things used when a country is spreading its own propaganda.
Even today Bulgarian government denies existence of Macedonian nation and Macedonian language , they propagate that we are actually Bulgarians but at the same time
they hate us and put a veto against us for joining the EU. They do this in 21th century as they did in 20th and 19th century as well.
These revolutionaries openly fought for a Macedonian nation , wanted Macedonian language in schools and all the while scream Macedonia for the bloody Macedonians
yet are labeled as Bulgarians by their government. What more should they have done to prove they were Macedonian? Tattoo a sun on their forehead ?
Many Macedonians have Bulgarian papers nowadays because Bulgaria is in the EU and it makes it easier to work in the EU because of that and the Bulgarian government also
openly recently claimed that these were also actually Bulgarians and uses this also as a political tool.
There are many other discrepancies in your comments but this comment is already big as it is so I will leave it like this.

But I will only ask what were all these whatever you want to call them Macedonians , Bulgarians or Slavs doing in todays Greek Macedonia region and around Thessalonica?
Its like as if that region was filled with majority of those people and not original Macedonian Greeks or whatever you call them like so many Greeks claim ?

For starters none of your images work so I can't comment on them.
Gotse Delchev really did support a Macedonian state, in the sense of supporting a multiethnic federation of people where each of its citizens would be "Macedonian" but also "Bulgarian", "Greek", "Turk" or any other ethnicity at the same time. Just as in Iran you can be Azeri, Kurdish, Baloch or any other nationality and still be Iranian, or how in Russia you can be Tatar, Buryat or Karelian and still be Russian. That did not mean he didn't see himself as Bulgarian. Petar Poparsov didn't protest for "the Bulgarian language to be replaced with a Macedonian one", he protested "the east Bulgarian dialect to be replaced with a Macedonian Bulgarian one". He and his fellows considered the two dialects of the same language. The magazine in which he published, called Loza, referred to "Macedonians" as Bulgarians, and its goals were for said Macedonian Bulgarians and their dialect to be better represented in Bulgarian literature. In general to your question as to why these people were campaigning for an independent Macedonia instead of unification with Bulgaria, aside from the fact that they did often campaign for that (military support for Bulgaria during the wars of the time), you need look no further than the words of Hristo Tatarchev, the original founder and leader of the group, born in a town near modern Albania, who in his memoirs said:

"We talked a long time about the goal of this organization and at last we fixed it on the autonomy of Macedonia with the priority of the Bulgarian element. We couldn't accept the position for "direct joining to Bulgaria" because we saw that it would meet big difficulties by reason of confrontation of the Great powers and the aspirations of the neighbouring small countries and Turkey. It passed through our thoughts that one autonomous Macedonia could easier unite with Bulgaria subsequently and if the worst comes to the worst, that it could play a role as a unifying link of a federation of Balkan people. The region of Adrianople, as far as I remember, didn't take part in our program, and I think the idea to add it to autonomous Macedonia came later."

In short he is saying the only reason they were hesitant to campaign for a Bulgarian Macedonia was because the great powers and other Balkan nations would get triggered. Their long-term goal was unification with Bulgaria and Macedonian independence was just a stopgap to it. Again this is no wild theory of mine, it's taken directly from the memoirs of the group's founder. As for why Bulgarians were in Macedonia, they had immigrated there during the Byzantine and Ottoman times, so there was a strong Bulgarian presence, but they were most certainly not a majority, in 1903 the demographics of the region looked like this:
https://prnt.sc/1avhy5u
With a narrow Muslim plurality (practically a Greek plurality since "Muslims" aren't an ethnicity) in in the Thessalonica area and a narrow Muslim plurality (practically Bulgarian plurality since "Muslims" aren't an ethnicity") in Serres and a clear Muslim majority in Drama, overall no group holding a majority in the region. And this is exactly what a "Macedonian Bulgarian" is, a Bulgarian living in Macedonia, and part of a subgroup of Bulgarians who slightly differed from Bulgarians of Bulgaria proper but were Bulgarians regardless. Just as Macedonian Greeks are referred as such despite being 100% Greek, or Cypriot Greeks, or Israeli Arabs, or Pakistani Pashtun, or Kaifeng Jews, or any other group of people named [Region] [Ethnicity]. what kind of logic is "you can be either one or the other"?

So after countering your selective reading where you ignored any direct proof of the revolutionaries' Bulgarian identity and only sniped the parts that could be twisted to your favour, you will still claim that these people were not Bulgarians, because of course you will, the bitter truth that your nation is a hundred years old and the result of Serbian-Yugoslav propaganda is too hard to swallow, better cling to fake glories of other nations to justify your national pride.

Look who is discrediting Greek continuity: Pavle ''montenegrian'', Swans ''bosniak'', some americans, and ofc directly involved makedonec.

Funny how the balkans + greece have literally the same problems as middle east or africa.

Escrito por ITSGG1122, 14.07.2021 at 07:25

Funny how the balkans + greece have literally the same problems as middle east or africa.

Africa... Balkans... same thing bro

Escrito por ITSGG1122, 14.07.2021 at 07:25

Funny how the balkans + greece have literally the same problems as middle east or africa.

Why would you need to add Greece to the Balkans when Greece is part of the Balkans

Escrito por Zephyrusu, 14.07.2021 at 11:40

Escrito por ITSGG1122, 14.07.2021 at 07:25

Funny how the balkans + greece have literally the same problems as middle east or africa.

Why would you need to add Greece to the Balkans when Greece is part of the Balkans

because i dont consider it a balkan country, i consider it more or less a mediterrean country.

I like how Pavle and Swans act against proud and such a great Greek history!! My dear sirs you have to accept ur Serbian indenity and be proud slavs!
Also it is a joke when someone from USA speak about Greece
Balkans and Greece

Escrito por Bella Ciao, 15.07.2021 at 01:42

I like how Pavle and Swans act against proud and such a great Greek history!! My dear sirs you have to accept ur Serbian indenity and be proud slavs!
Also it is a joke when someone from USA speak about Greece
Balkans and Greece

Are u referring to me? because im not american lol.
By your comment i assume u dont have a bright mind.

Funny how you are baffling on about slavination of macedonia but then consider yourself part of balkans lel.
Geographically speaking yes obviously it is in the balkan peninsula. But thats Turkish Europe too. But i wasnt referring to it geographically. Thats why i meant mediterrean as it differs from the other balkan countries.

Escrito por ITSGG1122, 15.07.2021 at 02:13

Escrito por Bella Ciao, 15.07.2021 at 01:42

I like how Pavle and Swans act against proud and such a great Greek history!! My dear sirs you have to accept ur Serbian indenity and be proud slavs!
Also it is a joke when someone from USA speak about Greece
Balkans and Greece

Are u referring to me? because im not american lol.
By your comment i assume u dont have a bright mind.

Funny how you are baffling on about slavination of macedonia but then consider yourself part of balkans lel.
Geographically speaking yes obviously it is in the balkan peninsula. But thats Turkish Europe too. But i wasnt referring to it geographically. Thats why i meant mediterrean as it differs from the other balkan countries.

No please stop talking, first learn history after speak to me..

Escrito por ITSGG1122, 15.07.2021 at 01:41

because i dont consider it a balkan country, i consider it more or less a mediterrean country.

yes because it's not possible to be both a Balkan and a Mediterranean country, nevermind the fact that the entire southwest of the Balkans is touched by the Mediterranean

Escrito por Bella Ciao, 15.07.2021 at 04:39

Escrito por ITSGG1122, 15.07.2021 at 02:13

Escrito por Bella Ciao, 15.07.2021 at 01:42

I like how Pavle and Swans act against proud and such a great Greek history!! My dear sirs you have to accept ur Serbian indenity and be proud slavs!
Also it is a joke when someone from USA speak about Greece
Balkans and Greece

Are u referring to me? because im not american lol.
By your comment i assume u dont have a bright mind.

Funny how you are baffling on about slavination of macedonia but then consider yourself part of balkans lel.
Geographically speaking yes obviously it is in the balkan peninsula. But thats Turkish Europe too. But i wasnt referring to it geographically. Thats why i meant mediterrean as it differs from the other balkan countries.

No please stop talking, first learn history after speak to me..

Guess facts do hurt u, no need to be a baby. I dont need history lessons, u probably do. Can recommend some.

Escrito por Zephyrusu, 15.07.2021 at 08:27

Escrito por ITSGG1122, 15.07.2021 at 01:41

because i dont consider it a balkan country, i consider it more or less a mediterrean country.

yes because it's not possible to be both a Balkan and a Mediterranean country, nevermind the fact that the entire southwest of the Balkans is touched by the Mediterranean

Yes it is, prime example is probably croatia, but most certainly not greece.

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Guess facts do hurt u, no need to be a baby. I dont need history lessons, u probably do. Can recommend some.

Listen noob, you can't hurt me cause here we discuss different opinions and that's normal do not agree, but at least we have to know basic things, about history documents ect. I don't want to try change ur mind or make u to beilive me so stop being cocy against me.
Also Greece belongs to the Balkans, which is the southernmost part of the Balkan Peninsula and is also touched by the Mediterranean Sea!
You can say that Greece is mostly Mediterranean country.

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Escrito por Bella Ciao, 15.07.2021 at 10:57

Guess facts do hurt u, no need to be a baby. I dont need history lessons, u probably do. Can recommend some.

Listen noob, you can't hurt me cause here we discuss different opinions and that's normal do not agree, but at least we have to know basic things, about history documents ect. I don't want to try change ur mind or make u to beilive me so stop being cocy against me.
Also Greece belongs to the Balkans, which is the southernmost part of the Balkan Peninsula and is also touched by the Mediterranean Sea!
You can say that Greece is mostly Mediterranean country.

I can show u my degree in history at a top 25 university in world. If u gonna start dick contest. Noob. Kid go back to sleep.

Terms can differ relative to geography/ cultural. I wasnt talking about the geographical meaning. For that i already wrote what the balkans geographically mean, which includes portions of greece and even western european turkey part.
Anyway.
Answer these: how slavic are the balkan countries, especially greece?
How much does the greek language have in common with the slavic ones? Or is it more closer to latin?
How much did the balkans allign themselves with the communist world, especially greece? Or was greece part of the western world?

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Anyway.
Answer these: how slavic are the balkan countries, especially greece?
How much does the greek language have in common with the slavic ones? Or is it more closer to latin?
How much did the balkans allign themselves with the communist world, especially greece? Or was greece part of the western world?

1) Slav countries in balkans :
Serbia, Croatia, Montenegro, FYROM, Bulgaria, Slovakia, Slovenia.
2) Greece is autochtonous race with culture 5k years!
3) ofc to latin, Latin language based from Greeks! It is related to ancient Greek in morphology and structure in general.
Ofc Greece was part of western world!

Escrito por avatar, 10.07.2021 at 16:57

Escrito por Black Swans, 08.07.2021 at 08:47

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greek salad +rakija= rip corona delta variant

If there's no cell, virus has nothing to infect. 9000 iq move

Escrito por Bella Ciao, 15.07.2021 at 01:42

I like how Pavle and Swans act against proud and such a great Greek history!!
My dear sirs you have to accept ur Serbian indenity and be proud slavs!
Balkans and Greece

the whole comment is

Not unexpected tho considering from whom it's coming

Escrito por Black Swans, 19.07.2021 at 08:02

Escrito por Bella Ciao, 15.07.2021 at 01:42

I like how Pavle and Swans act against proud and such a great Greek history!!
My dear sirs you have to accept ur Serbian indenity and be proud slavs!
Balkans and Greece

the whole comment is

Not unexpected tho considering from whom it's coming

Shut the fuck up rat