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Publicado por Skanderbeg, 14.06.2018 - 15:32

Well, new name for FYROM, is it trolling (from either side greece or macedonia) or they really mean it?

Can there be Greek province named Macedonia and Republic both? Can they coexist?

Can we blame Tito for Macedonian republic? I mean he only asked locals how they want their new republic to be named (in 1945) and they said Macedonia, so he listened. Should he name it otherwise or not let it exist (split between serbia bulgaria or greece)?

I don't know what to think, from 1945 point of view, i guess i would be against, but from 2018, it's hard to deny existance of republic and name which 1.3 million people want.

4nic Illyria Publicações: 5353 De: Itália	16.06.2018 - 16:31 4nic Escrito por Al Fappino, 16.06.2018 at 12:55 Escrito por 4nic, 16.06.2018 at 10:12 Escrito por Black Swans, 16.06.2018 at 08:07 Are North Macedonia and North Korea neighbors ? Seriously: "Those who are willing to trade their freedom for temporarily safety, will have neither." except that nato and eu arent going to die anytime soon. especially not nato. Currently macedonia is standing still and the longer it does it will have more problems, both geopolitical and internal. Id save the patriotism for later; when we join eu we can elect fascist goverments like austria and hungary have I'd say you should be integrated into Greece, you don't seem very different nope not different at all, only just a few billion differences ---- ''Everywhere where i am absent, they commit nothing but follies'' ~Napoleon Carregando... Carregando...
Al Fappino The Imperial Academy Publicações: 4087 De: Portugal	16.06.2018 - 16:35 Al Fappino Escrito por 4nic, 16.06.2018 at 16:31 nope not different at all, only just a few billion differences Don't take my word as an insult or what not, I really am almost illiterate when it comes to the balkans, except that macedonians have huge presence of bulgarian ancestry? ---- Carregando... Carregando...
Zephyrusu The_Empire Publicações: 3702	+1 16.06.2018 - 17:19 Zephyrusu Escrito por Al Fappino, 16.06.2018 at 16:35 Don't take my word as an insult or what not, I really am almost illiterate when it comes to the balkans, except that macedonians have huge presence of bulgarian ancestry? Bulgarians and Skopjans are like Czechs and Slovaks, maybe even closer, some say they're the same while others say they're different ethincities. They definitely have nothing to do with Greeks, they are northern barbaroi, Slav invaders from the early Medieval period. ---- Someone Better Than You Carregando... Carregando...
Rock Lee Epic Clan Publicações: 3207 De: Israel	17.06.2018 - 01:44 Rock Lee My Greek friend John told me that Alexander and his general massacred slavs in masses. just my 50 cents. ---- Carregando... Carregando...
Cyan Spectre The Cabal Publicações: 98 De: Grécia	17.06.2018 - 03:21 Cyan Spectre They are not macedonians . 150K Albanians perhaps more 200k Bulgarians and 100k Slavs. Macedons are greek tribe nothing more , nothing less. North Macedonia is a gift for them. Carregando... Carregando...
avatar V I K I N G S Publicações: 2878 De: Russia	17.06.2018 - 04:54 avatar Escrito por Cyan Spectre, 17.06.2018 at 03:21 They are not macedonians . 150K Albanians perhaps more 200k Bulgarians and 100k Slavs. Macedons are greek tribe nothing more , nothing less. North Macedonia is a gift for them. A gypsy look alike tribe from North Africa, now are claiming to be Macedonians!!! Great joke. The North Remembers ---- Carregando... Carregando...
Cyan Spectre The Cabal Publicações: 98 De: Grécia	17.06.2018 - 05:34 Cyan Spectre Escrito por avatar, 17.06.2018 at 04:54 Escrito por Cyan Spectre, 17.06.2018 at 03:21 They are not macedonians . 150K Albanians perhaps more 200k Bulgarians and 100k Slavs. Macedons are greek tribe nothing more , nothing less. North Macedonia is a gift for them. A gypsy look alike tribe from North Africa, now are claiming to be Macedonians!!! Great joke. The North Remembers The North Remembers? Read this and open your eyes http://www.historyofmacedonia.org/MacedonianGreekConflict/conflict.html Carregando... Carregando...
Cyan Spectre The Cabal Publicações: 98 De: Grécia	17.06.2018 - 05:35 Cyan Spectre You are a Slav who lives at Macedonia , Nothing more nothing less Carregando... Carregando...
Cyan Spectre The Cabal Publicações: 98 De: Grécia	17.06.2018 - 05:37 Cyan Spectre The Norh Remembers? Poor boy , you are just a vessel Carregando... Carregando...
avatar V I K I N G S Publicações: 2878 De: Russia	17.06.2018 - 06:08 avatar Escrito por Cyan Spectre, 17.06.2018 at 05:35 You are a Slav who lives at Macedonia , Nothing more nothing less You are a slav who lives at Greece ---- Carregando... Carregando...
Cyan Spectre The Cabal Publicações: 98 De: Grécia	+2 17.06.2018 - 06:14 Cyan Spectre Escrito por avatar, 17.06.2018 at 06:08 Escrito por Cyan Spectre, 17.06.2018 at 05:35 You are a Slav who lives at Macedonia , Nothing more nothing less You are a slav who lives at Greece Lol are you kidding me? even your leanguege is Slavic . Its like a mixed Bulgarian and Serbian. Even your surnames are slavic like the basketball player Antic . Deal with it mate , acient macedonians had greek names like Philipos , Alexander even macedonia its a greek name . Carregando... Carregando...
avatar V I K I N G S Publicações: 2878 De: Russia	17.06.2018 - 06:25 avatar Escrito por Cyan Spectre, 17.06.2018 at 06:14 Escrito por avatar, 17.06.2018 at 06:08 Escrito por Cyan Spectre, 17.06.2018 at 05:35 You are a Slav who lives at Macedonia , Nothing more nothing less You are a slav who lives at Greece Lol are you kidding me? even your leanguege is Slavic . Its like a mixed Bulgarian and Serbian. Even your surnames are slavic like the basketball player Antic . Deal with it mate , acient macedonians had greek names like Philipos , Alexander even macedonia its a greek name . Greece has a long history of debt and bankruptcy ---- Carregando... Carregando...
Cyan Spectre The Cabal Publicações: 98 De: Grécia	+1 17.06.2018 - 06:30 Cyan Spectre Escrito por avatar, 17.06.2018 at 06:25 Escrito por Cyan Spectre, 17.06.2018 at 06:14 Escrito por avatar, 17.06.2018 at 06:08 Escrito por Cyan Spectre, 17.06.2018 at 05:35 You are a Slav who lives at Macedonia , Nothing more nothing less You are a slav who lives at Greece Lol are you kidding me? even your leanguege is Slavic . Its like a mixed Bulgarian and Serbian. Even your surnames are slavic like the basketball player Antic . Deal with it mate , acient macedonians had greek names like Philipos , Alexander even macedonia its a greek name . Greece has a long history of debt and bankruptcy Still, that doesnt explain why i should call you macedonian . Carregando... Carregando...
avatar V I K I N G S Publicações: 2878 De: Russia	17.06.2018 - 07:00 avatar Escrito por Cyan Spectre, 17.06.2018 at 06:30 Escrito por avatar, 17.06.2018 at 06:25 Escrito por Cyan Spectre, 17.06.2018 at 06:14 Escrito por avatar, 17.06.2018 at 06:08 Escrito por Cyan Spectre, 17.06.2018 at 05:35 You are a Slav who lives at Macedonia , Nothing more nothing less You are a slav who lives at Greece Lol are you kidding me? even your leanguege is Slavic . Its like a mixed Bulgarian and Serbian. Even your surnames are slavic like the basketball player Antic . Deal with it mate , acient macedonians had greek names like Philipos , Alexander even macedonia its a greek name . Greece has a long history of debt and bankruptcy Still, that doesnt explain why i should call you macedonian . You act like greeks existed before the world existed. ---- Carregando... Carregando...
Cyan Spectre The Cabal Publicações: 98 De: Grécia	+1 17.06.2018 - 07:14 Cyan Spectre Escrito por avatar, 17.06.2018 at 07:00 Escrito por Cyan Spectre, 17.06.2018 at 06:30 Escrito por avatar, 17.06.2018 at 06:25 Escrito por Cyan Spectre, 17.06.2018 at 06:14 Escrito por avatar, 17.06.2018 at 06:08 Escrito por Cyan Spectre, 17.06.2018 at 05:35 You are a Slav who lives at Macedonia , Nothing more nothing less You are a slav who lives at Greece Lol are you kidding me? even your leanguege is Slavic . Its like a mixed Bulgarian and Serbian. Even your surnames are slavic like the basketball player Antic . Deal with it mate , acient macedonians had greek names like Philipos , Alexander even macedonia its a greek name . Greece has a long history of debt and bankruptcy Still, that doesnt explain why i should call you macedonian . You act like greeks existed before the world existed. Not really , but i cant let people steal our history . You call yourselfs Macedonians and you dont even know what Macedonia means . Stop reading your school full of propaganda books . Open your eye . You dont even want to join at Eu, that explain a lot Carregando... Carregando...
avatar V I K I N G S Publicações: 2878 De: Russia	17.06.2018 - 07:17 avatar Escrito por Mauzer Panteri, 16.06.2018 at 14:33 North Macedonia is best what FYROM will get. North Macedonia is best Macedonia ---- Carregando... Carregando...
Al Fappino The Imperial Academy Publicações: 4087 De: Portugal	+1 17.06.2018 - 07:31 Al Fappino This is like watching Rwanda and Burundi fighting each other to see who's more meaningful ---- Carregando... Carregando...
Franz Aristokrats Publicações: 856 De: Áustria	17.06.2018 - 07:53 Franz Escrito por avatar, 17.06.2018 at 04:54 Escrito por Cyan Spectre, 17.06.2018 at 03:21 They are not macedonians . 150K Albanians perhaps more 200k Bulgarians and 100k Slavs. Macedons are greek tribe nothing more , nothing less. North Macedonia is a gift for them. A gypsy look alike tribe from North Africa, now are claiming to be Macedonians!!! Great joke. The North Remembers Who drew those borders in the first place? ---- Carregando... Carregando...
Cyan Spectre The Cabal Publicações: 98 De: Grécia	+1 17.06.2018 - 08:11 Cyan Spectre Hahaha Greek Terror xD Carregando... Carregando...
Ghostface Epic Clan Publicações: 1462 De: Macedónia	+2 17.06.2018 - 10:00 Ghostface To all those that think we are similar to bulgarians you need to brush up on your history between the 5th and 10th century. The only thing we are similar to is our adopted slavic languages. Genetically and historically Bulgarians are closer to the modern Turks and Tatars than the balkan people. Carregando... Carregando...
Cyan Spectre The Cabal Publicações: 98 De: Grécia	+1 17.06.2018 - 11:59 Cyan Spectre I dont say you are bulgarians , i said you have 200k bulgarians . At least you admit that your languege is Slavic . Of course andis because you are Slavs . You have Slavs surnames and you have Slavic blood . That means you are a Slavic Tribe so you have nothing to do with the acient Macedonians , cuz Slavs invited Macedonia from the early medieval ages . You are the Slavs who lives in Macedonia . i would agree if your name was Slavia Macedonia . Carregando... Carregando...
Zephyrusu The_Empire Publicações: 3702	17.06.2018 - 12:01 Zephyrusu Escrito por Ghostface, 17.06.2018 at 10:00 To all those that think we are similar to bulgarians you need to brush up on your history between the 5th and 10th century. The only thing we are similar to is our adopted slavic languages. Genetically and historically Bulgarians are closer to the modern Turks and Tatars than the balkan people. Modern Bulgarians and Bulgars have nothing to do with eachother. It's like saying Russians are actually Vikings because the Rus' was ruled by Varangians. Bulgarians are Slavs, of the same kind as Skopje folk, and the area of the modern country that is inhabited by Slav-speaking people was usually under the control of the medieval Bulgarian states when it was not under Byzantine control ---- Someone Better Than You Carregando... Carregando...
4nic Illyria Publicações: 5353 De: Itália	17.06.2018 - 12:06 4nic Escrito por Cyan Spectre, 17.06.2018 at 11:59 I dont say you are bulgarians , i said you have 200k bulgarians . At least you admit that your languege is Slavic . Of course andis because you are Slavs . You have Slavs surnames and you have Slavic blood . That means you are a Slavic Tribe so you have nothing to do with the acient Macedonians , cuz Slavs invited Macedonia from the early medieval ages . You are the Slavs who lives in Macedonia . i would agree if your name was Slavia Macedonia . we dont have 200k bulgarians in macedonia, we only get bulgarian passports sometimes cause bulgaria is in the EU and its better for traveling we are slavic indeed, but we are a mix, when slavs settled this land in the migration period they accepted the name macedonia from the ancient people. Macedonia was never part of greece in ancient times, just like sparta didnt call themself greeks. ---- ''Everywhere where i am absent, they commit nothing but follies'' ~Napoleon Carregando... Carregando...
Al Fappino The Imperial Academy Publicações: 4087 De: Portugal	17.06.2018 - 12:07 Al Fappino Escrito por Ghostface, 17.06.2018 at 10:00 -- You kind of just admitted their whole point.. ---- Carregando... Carregando...
Al Fappino The Imperial Academy Publicações: 4087 De: Portugal	17.06.2018 - 12:08 Al Fappino Escrito por Zephyrusu, 17.06.2018 at 12:01 -- Stop being a fake-patriot and never ignore my steam messages again ---- Carregando... Carregando...
Your Laki Publicações: 623 De: Sérvia	+1 17.06.2018 - 12:55 Your Laki Just follow logic, historians recognise two slavic tribes that arived in balkans, Serbs and Croats. Croats inhibited west part and Serbs east and south. Then Bulgars came and got asimilated. So..... ---- ...још сте ту... Carregando... Carregando...
Cyan Spectre The Cabal Publicações: 98 De: Grécia	+1 17.06.2018 - 13:45 Cyan Spectre Escrito por 4nic, 17.06.2018 at 12:06 Escrito por Cyan Spectre, 17.06.2018 at 11:59 I dont say you are bulgarians , i said you have 200k bulgarians . At least you admit that your languege is Slavic . Of course andis because you are Slavs . You have Slavs surnames and you have Slavic blood . That means you are a Slavic Tribe so you have nothing to do with the acient Macedonians , cuz Slavs invited Macedonia from the early medieval ages . You are the Slavs who lives in Macedonia . i would agree if your name was Slavia Macedonia . we dont have 200k bulgarians in macedonia, we only get bulgarian passports sometimes cause bulgaria is in the EU and its better for traveling we are slavic indeed, but we are a mix, when slavs settled this land in the migration period they accepted the name macedonia from the ancient people. Macedonia was never part of greece in ancient times, just like sparta didnt call themself greeks. Macedonians was always a greek tribe even Alexander the Great call himself leader of the Greeks . That is not an opinion its a fact. There are everywhere mix populations . Of course there are macedonians-Slavs mixed but that does not make them macedonians. The original macedonians was mixed with Greeks from the acient times . Thats why they are a Greek tribe . Carregando... Carregando...
Cyan Spectre The Cabal Publicações: 98 De: Grécia	+1 17.06.2018 - 13:58 Cyan Spectre As i said , i would agree if your name was Slavia Macedonia ( Slavs who live at Macedonia ) Carregando... Carregando...
Zephyrusu The_Empire Publicações: 3702	+1 17.06.2018 - 16:01 Zephyrusu Escrito por 4nic, 17.06.2018 at 12:06 we dont have 200k bulgarians in macedonia, we only get bulgarian passports sometimes cause bulgaria is in the EU and its better for traveling we are slavic indeed, but we are a mix, when slavs settled this land in the migration period they accepted the name macedonia from the ancient people. Macedonia was never part of greece in ancient times, just like sparta didnt call themself greeks. Actually both of them called themselves Greeks, Greece may not have been united but the concept of Greeks as a people existed. ---- Someone Better Than You Carregando... Carregando...
Skanderbeg The_Empire Publicações: 5632	17.06.2018 - 18:18 Skanderbeg Escrito por Your Laki, 17.06.2018 at 12:55 Just follow logic, historians recognise two slavic tribes that arived in balkans, Serbs and Croats. Croats inhibited west part and Serbs east and south. Then Bulgars came and got asimilated. So..... Goblin told me Croats are not slavic tribe, but persian horsemaster tribe. They raided their way to Balkan, taking (salt)wives along the way, becoming white in the process. I guess thats were their warrior culture comes from. ---- If a game is around long enough, people will find the most efficient way to play it and start playing it like robots Carregando... Carregando...

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