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Publicado por Helly, 15.01.2018 - 19:57
Hells Ancient World Remastered



http://prntscr.com/i98il1


Greetings fellow conquerors, with the new map maker right around the corner, i have decided to revive a former project of mine i think you guys will enjoy. Avatars Ancient World is one of atwars most popular maps, and i enjoy it emensly, however i have always had the feeling it is not as good as it could possibly be, i believe with revamped borders, more of the world and more historic units and regions, i could make ancient world into a much better map, unfortunatly talks with avatar have fallen through and i could not gain the privilege to work on the original masterpiece, so i have decided to make my own. So thats what im going to do now.

Thus far i have finished the greek cultural sphere, it is one of the most densily populated and wealthy spheres in my envisioned world.

https://prnt.sc/i0zxhh

In the map we will use a base set of units, with unique and powerful units spread throughout the map similar to avatars idea, however, my units will not all be ground other, allowing for people to create greater depth and strategy by taking key regions they know have a spacific unit. Here is a look at some the units now.

https://prnt.sc/i0zz3y

I am also in need of help with adding unit pictures, for some reason, atwar refuses to allow me to add any pictures to units. Im guessing it is a unintentional bug.

I will also be doing polls on which region you guys would like me to add next and ill be making presets of all sorts, publishing the greek preset as soon as i can get pictures added to the units. The first poll will be linked here. https://atwar-game.com/forum/topic.php?topic_id=36334#m625974

I will be posting updates on this thread whenever i make progress on the map. I would also like to hear from you guys about things youd like added. Or things you dont like about the map.

Well i think that wraps things up for now, i look forward to your input.


Update: One "Desert Kings"


Greetings fellow conquerors, today i bring to you the first update to the map, i have added a large portion of the middle east to the map, with interesting pastoral tribal unit, and among many great and powerful empires that spanned the region. Here is a look at the new region.

http://prntscr.com/i1ndpm

Now i know people are going to say there are to many cities, but to accuratly portray the region i thought it was neccassary for this particular area, i promise you most of the map will have far less cities, other then these two regions, only persia, china, japan, and india, will be nearly as dense.

I am also still looking for someone who would like to collaborate on the map and add unit pictures, i will give you credit on the map for your work.

That will wrap up this update, cheers for now!


Update: Two "Land of Pharos"


Hello there everyone, the second update is now completed and features ancient egypt and its surrounding regions. Im looking for suggestions for african units for the north west east and south, as i intend to do large portions of coastal africa, aswell as many inland portions aswell, so if anyone has any ideas on some really cool units for those regions let me know. You can check out the new region now in the link below.

http://prntscr.com/i2ftop

Thats it for update two cya guys soon.


Update: Three "African Oligarchs"


Hi guys, the next map update is now up and completed, you can check it out below.

http://prntscr.com/i2x3e5

I also published the map so you guys can muck around on the completed portion if you want, there is alot to do still and im still looking for someone who can do the unit pictures. Thats it for this update helly out.


Update: Four "Gauls and Iberians"


Helly here with another update four you can check it out below. Also im still in search of someone willing to do unit pictures, or someone who can help me work through this bug why i cant add them myself.

http://prntscr.com/i3bu8c



That concludes update Four. Helly out.


Update: Five "Rise of the Republic and The Illyrians"


Today i was feeling good and decided to do another region before bed, which actually makes the map fully playable. Still need unit pictures but its playable so hey there is that, just need amok to port it to html5 so if everyone would message him to update maps and scenarios so new maps are playable that would be great for balancing and testing as i continue to work on the map. You can check out the rome and illyrian update in the screen shot below.

http://prntscr.com/i3chwt

[Edit] Here is a look at the map thus far. http://prntscr.com/i3cpcx

Thats it for today guys let me know how you feel about progress and any thing you would like to see, helly out.


Update: Six "Great Tribal Island, and Public Release [Version 1.0]"


Hi guys good news, this is the day, the first public release version is live now, and you can host the map at your liesure, eventually i will allow people to use it for custom scenarios and presets but for now that will remain unavailable. Also apart of this update i have finished the islands of britain and and surrounding areas. You can find that screen shot below.

http://prntscr.com/i4y4x2

The map will remain without unit pictures untill i can figure out that problem unfortunatly. That concludes this update get out and try the map and give me balancing, bugs, and typo, tweaks.

Update: Seven "The Great Migration"


Hey guys, helly here coming at you with a brand new and unique region, Intriducing the germanic sphere and there unique border mechanic, to simulate migritory patterns that where common in that era of history. You can check out the update below.

http://prntscr.com/i51kba

Unfortunatly tomorrow is my only day off for the next two weeks, interesting mishaps at work have stolen all my free time, ill try to do some updates but it probably wont be near daily like it was this last week. Thats it for this update let me know if you like the german borders, im thinking of doing something similar with the russian steppe. So let me know what you think, Helly out.

Update: Eight "Old Gods"


Hey guys Back again with update Eight, its based on the scandinavian region, let me know how you like it. You can check the screen shot below. Im still looking for help with unit pictures aswell.

http://prntscr.com/i5g3cf

Thats it for this update see ya later!


Update:Nine "Eastern Expanse"


Hi guys since i wont have much time this next week, i decided to bust my ass today and will do as many updates as i feel i can. So with out further ado here is update nine.

http://prntscr.com/i5iamq

That concludes update nine.


Update:Ten "Bronze Eagle"


Hi guys next update out, its persia, hope you like it, im sorry these are getting short i dont know what the fuck to say xD

http://prntscr.com/i5na26

That concludes this update.


Update:Eleven "Western Siberia, Ugric North, and Slavic Migration"


Hi guys the next update is out, alot of people complained about poland even though i stressed its importence of being a barrier to north/south expansion, so i added a migritory route and two tribes there. I also added the western siberian region and the ugric tribes of the north. Im having dificulty finding source meterial for this region so if you guys got any suggestions for tribes im willing to edit them in. You can check out the new region below.

http://prntscr.com/i6092z

That will conclude this update.


Update: Twelve "Shadows Beyond the Indus"


Hi guys, im proud to present the next update, this region was really dificult to make and i am very happy with how it turned out. You can check it out below.

http://prntscr.com/i6izmg

Well thats its guys i hope you enjoy the map, it has been a pleasure making it for you, and i hope i can keep this inspiration to keep pushing east and finish the map in its entireity. Helly out


Update: Thirteen "Tibet and Indo-China"


Next update out now guys, its indo-china and tibet, check it out below.

http://prntscr.com/i7z8wx

Thats it for now Helly out.



Update: Fourteen "Warring States"


Hi guys the next update is completed its china and a few of the nomadic groups north of it. You can check it out in the screen shot below.

http://prntscr.com/i8svcj

Thats it for now guys helly out.


Update: Fifteen "Nomads"


Here is update fifteen it is some nomadic tribes of china and the step and Korea. Check it out below

http://prntscr.com/i98hdo

Thats it for now guys helly out.


Update: Sixteen "Unit Overhaul Part One"


Hi guys today i bring to you a unit over haul, many people complained about the balance of the current units and i heard yah, therefor im redoing them from scratch, this will be a three part update, update one was all the units from persia to the west, update two will be india and to the east, and the final one will be much later when i add, africa and indonesia. No Screen shot this time as there are far to many units, and the editor bugs if i leave the unit screen up to long. If you have any unit suggestions let me know and ill consider adding them. Thats its for this update helly out.
24.01.2018 - 11:34
Escrito por Viruslegion, 24.01.2018 at 11:28

I usually don't like Ancient maps but this looks outstanding, also gib Germania

making it right now
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24.01.2018 - 11:36
Escrito por RaulPB, 24.01.2018 at 10:36

I really don't mean to be rude Helly, but I was wondering where you got the names for hispanic regions. From your screenshot, some names don't make sense to me, such as "Basqulteni" or "Hippo Ibiza". Others need to be fixed if you ask me: "Calaeci"? It's Gallaecia, also called Callaecia but I'd suggest the first one better. "Emperion" should be "Emporion", but it's not really an area, it's just the name of a port. "Celtciti" should be rewritten as "Celtici".

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The most relevant ones should be Gallaecia, Astures, Cantabri, Lusitani, Celtiberi, Vascones, Ilergetae, Turdetani and Bastetani, but this is just my little opinion and just an attempt to help

no you made me cry, fuck you ;_; just kidding, but yah thanks for the reference, obviously i made some names up for shit i could not find. As for hippo ibiza i need its real carthiginean name, not its native iberian name.
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24.01.2018 - 12:19
It's really a good map!!!
However i think you should have added Persia (and maybe North West India?)
What about Cataphract as special unit 4 Babylon,Nubian Archer 4 Egypt, War Elephant 4 Carthage and Berserker 4 the German Sphere?
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24.01.2018 - 13:15
Escrito por Anushirvan, 24.01.2018 at 12:19

It's really a good map!!!
However i think you should have added Persia (and maybe North West India?)
What about Cataphract as special unit 4 Babylon,Nubian Archer 4 Egypt, War Elephant 4 Carthage and Berserker 4 the German Sphere?

i will be adding everything on the map, africa to australia, japan to iceland.
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24.01.2018 - 14:54
Looks aweasome
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24.01.2018 - 16:29
Escrito por Helly, 23.01.2018 at 21:28

Escrito por cascaval, 23.01.2018 at 21:19

Pls correctly name Dacia in this map

To what?

Name it Dacia instead of Getae
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24.01.2018 - 16:32
Where is the scenario version ;_;
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24.01.2018 - 16:54
Escrito por cascaval, 24.01.2018 at 16:29

Escrito por Helly, 23.01.2018 at 21:28

Escrito por cascaval, 23.01.2018 at 21:19

Pls correctly name Dacia in this map

To what?

Name it Dacia instead of Getae

Dacia was a region getae is a tribe.
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24.01.2018 - 16:55
Escrito por Zephyrusu, 24.01.2018 at 16:32

Where is the scenario version ;_;

After completion of the map.
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24.01.2018 - 19:43
Escrito por Helly, 24.01.2018 at 16:54

Escrito por cascaval, 24.01.2018 at 16:29

Escrito por Helly, 23.01.2018 at 21:28

Escrito por cascaval, 23.01.2018 at 21:19

Pls correctly name Dacia in this map

To what?

Name it Dacia instead of Getae

Dacia was a region getae is a tribe.

That's not how the people of Dacia see it
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24.01.2018 - 19:47
Escrito por cascaval, 24.01.2018 at 19:43

Escrito por Helly, 24.01.2018 at 16:54

Escrito por cascaval, 24.01.2018 at 16:29

Escrito por Helly, 23.01.2018 at 21:28

Escrito por cascaval, 23.01.2018 at 21:19

Pls correctly name Dacia in this map

To what?

Name it Dacia instead of Getae

Dacia was a region getae is a tribe.

That's not how the people of Dacia see it

There are five regions in what was dacia, they can't all be dacia. Besides they are in the tribal part of the map, same as the germans, your going to tell me if you went back to 800 bc and could speak there language they would identify as dacians?
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24.01.2018 - 19:57
Escrito por Helly, 24.01.2018 at 19:47

Escrito por cascaval, 24.01.2018 at 19:43

Escrito por Helly, 24.01.2018 at 16:54

Escrito por cascaval, 24.01.2018 at 16:29

Escrito por Helly, 23.01.2018 at 21:28

Escrito por cascaval, 23.01.2018 at 21:19

Pls correctly name Dacia in this map

To what?

Name it Dacia instead of Getae

Dacia was a region getae is a tribe.

That's not how the people of Dacia see it

There are five regions in what was dacia, they can't all be dacia. Besides they are in the tribal part of the map, same as the germans, your going to tell me if you went back to 800 bc and could speak there language they would identify as dacians?

Yes
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24.01.2018 - 20:04
Escrito por cascaval, 24.01.2018 at 19:57

Escrito por Helly, 24.01.2018 at 19:47

Escrito por cascaval, 24.01.2018 at 19:43

Escrito por Helly, 24.01.2018 at 16:54

Escrito por cascaval, 24.01.2018 at 16:29

Escrito por Helly, 23.01.2018 at 21:28

Escrito por cascaval, 23.01.2018 at 21:19

Pls correctly name Dacia in this map

To what?

Name it Dacia instead of Getae

Dacia was a region getae is a tribe.

That's not how the people of Dacia see it

There are five regions in what was dacia, they can't all be dacia. Besides they are in the tribal part of the map, same as the germans, your going to tell me if you went back to 800 bc and could speak there language they would identify as dacians?

Yes

I disagree. Same way not a single germanic person identified as such back then.
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24.01.2018 - 20:55
Escrito por RaulPB, 24.01.2018 at 10:36




The most relevant ones should be Gallaecia, Astures, Cantabri, Lusitani, Celtiberi, Vascones, Ilergetae, Turdetani and Bastetani, but this is just my little opinion and just an attempt to help


Oh shit, I didn't even noticed the typos in Iberia lol


@Helly go with the names he mentioned, and Iberia doesn't need to be cramped up as those were relatively large areas, heterogenous but meh
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24.01.2018 - 20:59
Escrito por Al Fappino, 24.01.2018 at 20:55

Escrito por RaulPB, 24.01.2018 at 10:36




The most relevant ones should be Gallaecia, Astures, Cantabri, Lusitani, Celtiberi, Vascones, Ilergetae, Turdetani and Bastetani, but this is just my little opinion and just an attempt to help


Oh shit, I didn't even noticed the typos in Iberia lol


@Helly go with the names he mentioned, and Iberia doesn't need to be cramped up as those were relatively large areas, heterogenous but meh

Already changed them.
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24.01.2018 - 21:01
Escrito por Helly, 24.01.2018 at 20:59


Already changed them.


If you need help with Lusitanian's lemme know or any Portuguese stuff really, been reading an encyclopedia and delving into Historical docs i've inherited recently lul
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25.01.2018 - 07:54
Escrito por Al Fappino, 24.01.2018 at 21:01

Escrito por Helly, 24.01.2018 at 20:59


Already changed them.


If you need help with Lusitanian's lemme know or any Portuguese stuff really, been reading an encyclopedia and delving into Historical docs i've inherited recently lul

i need help with units bae xD
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25.01.2018 - 12:02
Escrito por Al Fappino, 24.01.2018 at 20:55

Oh shit, I didn't even noticed the typos in Iberia lol

Noob portuguese... that's like the first shit you should have noticed once you saw the map! I'm dissapointed at you, -1 with your grades
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25.01.2018 - 12:14
Escrito por Helly, 24.01.2018 at 11:36

no you made me cry, fuck you ;_; just kidding, but yah thanks for the reference, obviously i made some names up for shit i could not find. As for hippo ibiza i need its real carthiginean name, not its native iberian name.

AHHH nooo!! Don't cry babe, I love you! <3

As for "hippo ibiza"... errr, pls find something more appropiate. Ibiza is just one of the small islands and the archipelago is known as Balearic Islands, most well known for their slinger mercenaries (an idea for your units). In turn, the Balearic islands can be divided into two parts: Ibiza + Formentera = Pityusic islands and Mallorca + Menorca = Gymnesian Islands.
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25.01.2018 - 13:03
Escrito por RaulPB, 25.01.2018 at 12:14

the Balearic islands can be divided into two parts: Ibiza + Formentera = Pityusic islands and Mallorca + Menorca = Gymnesian Islands.

>dividing the Balearics
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25.01.2018 - 13:04
Escrito por Zephyrusu, 25.01.2018 at 13:03

Escrito por RaulPB, 25.01.2018 at 12:14

the Balearic islands can be divided into two parts: Ibiza + Formentera = Pityusic islands and Mallorca + Menorca = Gymnesian Islands.

>dividing the Balearics

it is devided already, but only aesthetically between emporion and carthage.
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25.01.2018 - 15:12
UNIT INFO
Roman Legion - The Most Powerfull Army in History
Sacred Band - The best and bravest of Carthage trained to fight as hoplites.
Spartan Hoplite - Sparta's finest and strongest men, and toughest of hoplites
Thracian Raider - A Thracian thinks himself unequalled by others. Perhaps he is right?
Macedonian Phlanx - These elite heavy pikemen, disciplined, well-armoured, and hard-faced, are a terror to face.
Spearman - Cheap spearmen are not necessarily poor spearmen.
Cavalry - Good melee cavalry can be a wise investment; many a battle is won by a well-placed spear.
Assasin - Sometimes a well paid dagger does more damage than an Army.
Epirote Chariot
Ionian Chariot
Cretan Archer - Give a Cretan a bow, and he is worth his weight in silver.
Rhodesian Slinger - Few can match the deadly accuracy of the men of Rhodes.
Norse Raider - Blood-mad, gripped by shield-biter's rage, and utterly uncaring of danger, they are terrifying warriors.
Germanic Tribesman - A stout shield and a sharp blade. Argue with them at your peril.
Carthagenian Elephants - Huge, intimidating creatures, trained to charge and trample the enemy.
Carthagenian Mercenaries - Comprehensive knowledge of your enemy can be bought...
Iberian Bull Warrior -
Celtic Warrior - There is a deep savagery in these warrior's hearts; a delight in battle for its own sake.
Northern Celtic Warrior - Battle-hardened warriors who can be relied on to stand and fight with courage and skill.
Trojan Chariot - Superb heavy chariots who can smash through most opposition on their first charge.
Bird - Everyone needs a line of Communication.
Triremes - With a ramming attack that can break an enemy hull, these ships are deadly weapons.
Support Triremes - Archers can shoot down upon many enemies from the deck, doing terrible work in the process.
Transport Triremes - These ships were widely used to transport massive amounts of "Cargo" and Soldiers acrose the oceans
Athenian Triremes - These magnificent ships are both intimidating and extremely dangerous.
Carthagenian Triremes - Fast, relatively powerful pursuit ships, well able to hunt down pirates and other seagoing scum.
Norse Longship - Strong warships, constructed to withstand the worst the sea can throw at them.
Cypriot Long Transport - From a shipboard tower, all enemies become little targets to be potted at will - (or) - With deck-mounted artillery pieces, these ships can rain down destruction on the enemy.
Merchent Marine < Merchant Marine (minor Typo) -
Peasant - The common men and women, not worthy of attention or respect.
Greek Colonist - Brave men and women who live on the frontiers of Civilization.
Byzantine Archer - Archers are ideal for goading the enemy into foolish action.
Unit Idea - Scythian Cavalry - If a Scythian has a horse between his knees and a lance in his fist, he will prevail!
Unit Idea - Scythian Amazone - There are legends about Amazons for very good reasons.
Unit Idea (Germania) Night Hunter (Stealth Unit) - Men who can move in the shadows are always welcome in battle, except among foes!
Unit Idea - Hoplites - Hoplites: no other word says "Greeks at war" in quite the same way (would be the generic greek unit weaker ofcourse than the spartan counter part should you put it in)
Unit Idea - Colchis Nobles - Where Greek and eastern worlds meet, the nobles of Colchis are an immovable force.
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25.01.2018 - 18:07
Could you like show a picture with an infantry unit or something and its range so i can see how big the map is?
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25.01.2018 - 18:57
Escrito por hairbags, 25.01.2018 at 18:07

Could you like show a picture with an infantry unit or something and its range so i can see how big the map is?

http://prntscr.com/i5owly
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25.01.2018 - 22:51
How do you make borders so fast? Do you use just mouse and keyboard?
Also if you still need unit pics added, I can try on Internet Explorer
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26.01.2018 - 03:21
Escrito por RealZaes, 25.01.2018 at 22:51

How do you make borders so fast? Do you use just mouse and keyboard?
Also if you still need unit pics added, I can try on Internet Explorer


he uses torr
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26.01.2018 - 03:36
Escrito por RealZaes, 25.01.2018 at 22:51

How do you make borders so fast? Do you use just mouse and keyboard?
Also if you still need unit pics added, I can try on Internet Explorer

Trade secret
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26.01.2018 - 03:37
Escrito por boywind2, 26.01.2018 at 03:21

Escrito por RealZaes, 25.01.2018 at 22:51

How do you make borders so fast? Do you use just mouse and keyboard?
Also if you still need unit pics added, I can try on Internet Explorer


he uses torr

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26.01.2018 - 11:24
Escrito por Franz, 26.01.2018 at 10:58

Love the map. Finally a map that highlights the importance of having a strong navy and controlling the sea.

Only thing i would change is giving infantry units 1 more range and 1 more attack.

if i give them another range im going to take a defence point from them.
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26.01.2018 - 14:20
I think spearmen too cheap making it to easy to make huge op stacks of em lol
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