Excharge.

This is the conclusion I've reach in my other post. The 2x multiplier is something that is really damaging the community in both short terms and long terms, and should be removed. Argument about this were provided here http://atwar-game.com/forum/topic.php?topic_id=16711.

However as someone told me, "Nothing will charge" if we only remove 2x multiplier. It seems like I forgot to give the solution in the last post, so I am going to give it here instead.

As many players say, there is sure something better than 2x multiplier for boost this kind of competition. We are going to talk about those possible replacements. In other words, this is an Excharge.

I'l post the purpose of this topic very clear, so nobody goes off-topic.

Purpose: Excharge the 2x multiplier by another feature that can encourage the use of clan wars, but with less drawback for the current 3vs3 system.

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Excharge the 2x SP multiplier for 1.5x SP multiplier. This is, +50% of the SP earned in CW. I personally disagree, but this is wort mentioning.


A protocoin reward for the top 3 clans for every victory/ end of season. Maybe giving an award for the "player who had participated in more Clan Wars" in the 1st winner clan, for that season. However I dont think devs are willing to do this...


Rewards of "power-ups". There could be a currency for clans, Clan Coins. You obtain CC's by and only by winning CW's. Some of the items I though could be available for buy:

- Head-Start: Gives the clan a 5 win advantage. Item only available in the first 3 days of a season.
- +CP: Earn double Comp OR lose half Comp for the next Coalition War.
- +SP: Earn double SP for the next Coalition War.
- First pick: Your team gets 1st pick. Valid for one Coalition War only.

And of course, the top 3 winners gets lots of CC. There could be more awesome stuff like starting with a limit of 10 players in clan, and with CC you can buy an expansion.



The same 2x multiplier, but rotative. One day dreamworld, then africa, then 1 min middle east, then no extra cities europe. Maybe +CP could be adden as well.



Penalties for losing Coalition Wars. From now I had only though about reducing their SP earned by 1/2 everytime they lose. When they win one CW, their SP is revert back to 100%.



And last, making only the first 30 CW's count. What I mean is that you cannot replace victories anymore. However even though this would solve the problem between professional coalitions, the lower ones that doesn't care about CW's wouldnt stop...

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Either one can be implement, maybe all them, maybe a combination of all them, but anyway, those are my suggestion for replace the 2x multiplier. If you have another suggestion or want to support post here, if you want to keep the 2x multiplier then go to this discussion: http://atwar-game.com/forum/topic.php?topic_id=16711.

So first you talk about how the 2x sp is bad, but then you contradict yourself and suggest that clans that have a lot of wins should be allowed to have 2x sp in a selected cw?

then you proceed to give ideas that do more damage to competitive atwar:

Escrito por clovis1122, 30.11.2014 at 17:09

> Gives the clan a 5 win advantage
>First pick
>double Comp OR lose half Comp

are you out of your mind? those are pretty much "win once, increase your chances of winning twice"

Escrito por clovis1122, 30.11.2014 at 17:09

Penalties for losing Coalition Wars.

yes, lets discourage clans from playing a clan that is hard to beat

Escrito por clovis1122, 30.11.2014 at 17:09

only the first 30 CW's count

ok, so now clans will be more selective about their cws and there is gonna be less cws in total

Escrito por clovis1122, 30.11.2014 at 17:09

here could be more awesome stuff like starting with a limit of 10 players in clan, and with CC you can buy an expansion.

pay to win

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This is about your 2x topic:

Escrito por clovis1122, 30.11.2014 at 17:09

The appear of "farming clans" (Clans playing for SP. They dont care about losing).

plz prove that there is such "farming clans"

Escrito por clovis1122, 30.11.2014 at 17:09

•) Greatly reduce the quality of CW's. If in the past we had few CW's but with quality, now we have a lot of cw's but without quality.

Can you prove the clan wars are now of lower quality? or are you just making stuff up on the spot?

Escrito por clovis1122, 30.11.2014 at 17:09

•) Probably the most negative effect: It greatly damage the current 3vs3 system. Players tend to CW more often, and 3vs3 less. This of course damage the player on long-term (no practice) and also affect the new players that still play 3vs3 on main lobby (no expert hand for play)

can you prove that playing more 3vs3 than ClanWars helps develop skill?

Escrito por clovis1122, 30.11.2014 at 17:09

•) Bribe players. They want SP, they play for SP.

evidence?

Escrito por clovis1122, 30.11.2014 at 17:09

•) The cw's on custom maps (like ancient) are starting to grow. This would be good , except for the players doing it for SP, and not for the diversity.

Proof? most clans cw in acient because that is what some clans like winterfell and Preto Guard are Focus on.

Escrito por Tundy, 06.12.2014 at 00:20

First of all, all those are suggestions. They can be debatable.

Second, the clan warrers lost that argument long ago. You'll better go to the old threat for see how did this happen.

And third, if you dont have something to suggest as a replacement of 2x multiplier, then pls go away.

Escrito por clovis1122, 06.12.2014 at 00:52

Escrito por Tundy, 06.12.2014 at 00:20

First of all, all those are suggestions. They can be debatable.

Second, the clan warrers lost that argument long ago. You'll better go to the old threat for see how did this happen.

And third, if you dont have something to suggest as a replacement of 2x multiplier, then pls go away.

You can't fix something that isn't broken

I am not gonna go over 3 pages of garbage to find your fallacious argument, the fact that you don't want to provide it to me means that its weak.

Respect, but no support. I think 2x sp motivates new people to play 3v3 in order to play cws eventually. What's sp worth anyway: to get upgrades when you're low rank and to get higher in the players' ranking. So, lower ranks are motivated to play cws and top players are rewarded for forming clans and playing in team games. Clans provide training, and so on...
Support the status quo on that issue!

Respect bro once again you show initiative to help around!

With all respect, this is an utterly pointless idea.

Any and all rewards given for playing Clan Wars should be symbolic or replaceable. Trophies, bold username in chat, etc., etc, for reasons detailed in that other thread.

Giving Clan War specific power ups is, as Tunder3 mentioned, "win once, increase your chances of winning twice."
Giving certain Clan War games +100% or all of them +50% SP bonuses kind of defeat the point of removing the current bonus in the first place.
Penalties for losing Clan Wars is bad for the exact same reason bonuses for winning Clan Wars is bad. Any rewards should be symbolic. Therefore, any penalties should also be symbolic.

Just... get rid of the bonus. There is no reason to replace it with anything. As I said in the other forum thread, if the admins want to encourage players to play more Clan Wars, let them do it with protocoins or some symbolic reward. I am of the opinion that SP gain be balanced between all types of gameplay, Clan Wars included.

Escrito por Tundy, 06.12.2014 at 01:00

Escrito por clovis1122, 06.12.2014 at 00:52

Escrito por Tundy, 06.12.2014 at 00:20

First of all, all those are suggestions. They can be debatable.

Second, the clan warrers lost that argument long ago. You'll better go to the old threat for see how did this happen.

And third, if you dont have something to suggest as a replacement of 2x multiplier, then pls go away.

You can't fix something that isn't broken

I am not gonna go over 3 pages of garbage to find your fallacious argument, the fact that you don't want to provide it to me means that its weak.

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Even with clovis on ignore and only reading from the points u quoted this seems to be so useless.
>first he mocks about 2x sp in CW's are being unfair and blabla, and now all of sudden we should praise the people by giving them more advantages? wth...