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12.12.2023 - 14:57
Why don't the developers add the flag of Palestine in the shop?
There are flags of all sort of groups even unrecognized countries by UN
We should be allowed to express our allegiance in this game
Its a war which have been going on for 75 years for God's sake
How would it harm anyone to have a flag
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12.12.2023 - 16:32
I agree it should be added
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12.12.2023 - 16:49
Escrito por Ghostface, 12.12.2023 at 16:32

I agree it should be added

I agree that it should be added..because??
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13.12.2023 - 06:50
Escrito por Matsudaira, 12.12.2023 at 16:49

Escrito por Ghostface, 12.12.2023 at 16:32

I agree it should be added

I agree that it should be added..because??

why not
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13.12.2023 - 09:07
Agree, it should be added with price of 75$.. That will symbolize number of years that Israel people are being tortured by terrorists.
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16.12.2023 - 05:33
 Oleg
Under current flag categories - we the have official UN member countries flags and then Historical flags. Palestinian flag really does not fit into either group.
P.S You have Jordan flag, you can just use that one.
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16.12.2023 - 13:35
Pavle first thank you for your response.
However thats contradictory because
1- there's the flag of Northern Cyprus which is not a UN member.
2- The State of Palestine has been accepted as an observer state of the United Nations General Assembly in November 2012. As of 2 June 2023, 139 of the 193 United Nations (UN) member states have recognized the State of Palestine (Israel is recognized by 165).
3- Historically there was a Palestinian mandate state
So please I urge you or moderators to reconsider
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16.12.2023 - 13:39
Escrito por El Serbio, 13.12.2023 at 09:07

Agree, it should be added with price of 75$.. That will symbolize number of years that Israel people are being tortured by terrorists.


+ 1400 years before that when jews lived among islamic and arab empires without being prosecuted as they were in europe.
You zionists never mention the thousands of arab jews who prospered more than 1400 in Yemen, Iraq, Syria, Egypt, Lebanon coz that refutes the alibi of creating a jewish state
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16.12.2023 - 13:40
 Sascha (Mod)
Escrito por Elite Forces, 16.12.2023 at 13:35

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saying this for the last time. This is not up to us moderators. The only person that can add such a thing is Dave.
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16.12.2023 - 14:29
Escrito por Elite Forces, 16.12.2023 at 13:39

Escrito por El Serbio, 13.12.2023 at 09:07

Agree, it should be added with price of 75$.. That will symbolize number of years that Israel people are being tortured by terrorists.


+ 1400 years before that when jews lived among islamic and arab empires without being prosecuted as they were in europe.
You zionists never mention the thousands of arab jews who prospered more than 1400 in Yemen, Iraq, Syria, Egypt, Lebanon coz that refutes the alibi of creating a jewish state

The Jewish presence in Palestine has never ceased, while a Palestinian state was only born in 1988, before that a Palestinian state never existed and no Arab state has ever had Jerusalem as its capital, for the Palestinians before there were only terrorist organizations, in reality even after the Palestinians have always been governed by terrorist organizations that aim not for peace but for the destruction of Israel, Israel as a nation was born in 1948 following a UN resolution, Israel accepts, the Arabs do not and a war desired by the Arabs ensues Arabs with the objective of extermination.
All subsequent wars were all wanted and started by the Arabs
All attempts to create 2 states have all failed due to the Palestinian opposition which aims to destroy Israel
Since this is a game to make money I would also agree to put up a Palestinian flag, in fact now as a state it exists even if governed by terrorists like Afghanistan, but since it is governed and managed by terrorists I would agreement to have it paid with real money at a higher price and not with protocoins
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16.12.2023 - 15:13
Escrito por Oleg, 16.12.2023 at 05:33

Under current flag categories - we the have official UN member countries flags and then Historical flags. Palestinian flag really does not fit into either group.
P.S You have Jordan flag, you can just use that one.

Pavle first thank you for your response.
However thats contradictory because
1- there's the flag of Northern Cyprus which is not a UN member.
2- The State of Palestine has been accepted as an observer state of the United Nations General Assembly in November 2012. As of 2 June 2023, 139 of the 193 United Nations (UN) member states have recognized the State of Palestine (Israel is recognized by 165).
3- Historically there was a Palestinian mandate state
So please I urge you to put up a word with Dave about this
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16.12.2023 - 15:17
Escrito por Eridans, 16.12.2023 at 14:29

Escrito por Elite Forces, 16.12.2023 at 13:39

Escrito por El Serbio, 13.12.2023 at 09:07

Agree, it should be added with price of 75$.. That will symbolize number of years that Israel people are being tortured by terrorists.


+ 1400 years before that when jews lived among islamic and arab empires without being prosecuted as they were in europe.
You zionists never mention the thousands of arab jews who prospered more than 1400 in Yemen, Iraq, Syria, Egypt, Lebanon coz that refutes the alibi of creating a jewish state

The Jewish presence in Palestine has never ceased, while a Palestinian state was only born in 1988, before that a Palestinian state never existed and no Arab state has ever had Jerusalem as its capital, for the Palestinians before there were only terrorist organizations, in reality even after the Palestinians have always been governed by terrorist organizations that aim not for peace but for the destruction of Israel, Israel as a nation was born in 1948 following a UN resolution, Israel accepts, the Arabs do not and a war desired by the Arabs ensues Arabs with the objective of extermination.
All subsequent wars were all wanted and started by the Arabs
All attempts to create 2 states have all failed due to the Palestinian opposition which aims to destroy Israel
Since this is a game to make money I would also agree to put up a Palestinian flag, in fact now as a state it exists even if governed by terrorists like Afghanistan, but since it is governed and managed by terrorists I would agreement to have it paid with real money at a higher price and not with protocoins


Good to see that you agree to have a Palestinian Flag
As for the rest of what you said its full of factual errors which I don't know where to start to refute it and it may not be the subject of this post.
We need a flag for our nation just like any other nation.
IF YOU CAN READ THIS THEN YOU KNOW WE EXIST WHY CANT YOU GIVE US A FLAG
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16.12.2023 - 15:18
Escrito por Sascha, 16.12.2023 at 13:40

Escrito por Elite Forces, 16.12.2023 at 13:35

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saying this for the last time. This is not up to us moderators. The only person that can add such a thing is Dave.


Thank you Sascha then perhaps you can put up a word with Dave
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16.12.2023 - 20:26
Escrito por Eridans, 16.12.2023 at 14:29

Escrito por Elite Forces, 16.12.2023 at 13:39

Escrito por El Serbio, 13.12.2023 at 09:07

Agree, it should be added with price of 75$.. That will symbolize number of years that Israel people are being tortured by terrorists.


+ 1400 years before that when jews lived among islamic and arab empires without being prosecuted as they were in europe.
You zionists never mention the thousands of arab jews who prospered more than 1400 in Yemen, Iraq, Syria, Egypt, Lebanon coz that refutes the alibi of creating a jewish state

The Jewish presence in Palestine has never ceased, while a Palestinian state was only born in 1988, before that a Palestinian state never existed and no Arab state has ever had Jerusalem as its capital, for the Palestinians before there were only terrorist organizations, in reality even after the Palestinians have always been governed by terrorist organizations that aim not for peace but for the destruction of Israel, Israel as a nation was born in 1948 following a UN resolution, Israel accepts, the Arabs do not and a war desired by the Arabs ensues Arabs with the objective of extermination.
All subsequent wars were all wanted and started by the Arabs
All attempts to create 2 states have all failed due to the Palestinian opposition which aims to destroy Israel
Since this is a game to make money I would also agree to put up a Palestinian flag, in fact now as a state it exists even if governed by terrorists like Afghanistan, but since it is governed and managed by terrorists I would agreement to have it paid with real money at a higher price and not with protocoins

Funny you say they are governed by a terrorist organization considering so far israel has killed at a minimum 20,000 civilians so far in gaza , bombing schools hospitals killing children and everything that moves there
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17.12.2023 - 01:47
Escrito por Ghostface, 16.12.2023 at 20:26

Escrito por Eridans, 16.12.2023 at 14:29

Escrito por Elite Forces, 16.12.2023 at 13:39

Escrito por El Serbio, 13.12.2023 at 09:07

Agree, it should be added with price of 75$.. That will symbolize number of years that Israel people are being tortured by terrorists.


+ 1400 years before that when jews lived among islamic and arab empires without being prosecuted as they were in europe.
You zionists never mention the thousands of arab jews who prospered more than 1400 in Yemen, Iraq, Syria, Egypt, Lebanon coz that refutes the alibi of creating a jewish state

The Jewish presence in Palestine has never ceased, while a Palestinian state was only born in 1988, before that a Palestinian state never existed and no Arab state has ever had Jerusalem as its capital, for the Palestinians before there were only terrorist organizations, in reality even after the Palestinians have always been governed by terrorist organizations that aim not for peace but for the destruction of Israel, Israel as a nation was born in 1948 following a UN resolution, Israel accepts, the Arabs do not and a war desired by the Arabs ensues Arabs with the objective of extermination.
All subsequent wars were all wanted and started by the Arabs
All attempts to create 2 states have all failed due to the Palestinian opposition which aims to destroy Israel
Since this is a game to make money I would also agree to put up a Palestinian flag, in fact now as a state it exists even if governed by terrorists like Afghanistan, but since it is governed and managed by terrorists I would agreement to have it paid with real money at a higher price and not with protocoins

Funny you say they are governed by a terrorist organization considering so far israel has killed at a minimum 20,000 civilians so far in gaza , bombing schools hospitals killing children and everything that moves there

Hamas is a terrorist organization and is recognized by all.
of the 20,000 dead, how many are terrorists? how many human shields?
things that hHamas does all the time and they are all war crimes
using human shields is a war crime
Kidnapping civilians is a war crime
shooting at civilians is a war crime (firing rockets at Israeli cities is shooting at civilians)
using hospitals, mosques/churches, schools as military bases is a war crime and turns them into legitimate military targets

Hamas has built a vast network of tunnels and spent billions to attack civilians (war crime) and not even a cent to defend the population from wars that Hamas itself has started, rather it uses it as a shield

how can you say that Hamas is not a terrorist organization?
all Palestinian deaths are to be blamed on Hamas, not on Israel which is defending itself
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17.12.2023 - 01:50
Escrito por Elite Forces, 16.12.2023 at 15:17

Escrito por Eridans, 16.12.2023 at 14:29

Escrito por Elite Forces, 16.12.2023 at 13:39

Escrito por El Serbio, 13.12.2023 at 09:07

Agree, it should be added with price of 75$.. That will symbolize number of years that Israel people are being tortured by terrorists.


+ 1400 years before that when jews lived among islamic and arab empires without being prosecuted as they were in europe.
You zionists never mention the thousands of arab jews who prospered more than 1400 in Yemen, Iraq, Syria, Egypt, Lebanon coz that refutes the alibi of creating a jewish state

The Jewish presence in Palestine has never ceased, while a Palestinian state was only born in 1988, before that a Palestinian state never existed and no Arab state has ever had Jerusalem as its capital, for the Palestinians before there were only terrorist organizations, in reality even after the Palestinians have always been governed by terrorist organizations that aim not for peace but for the destruction of Israel, Israel as a nation was born in 1948 following a UN resolution, Israel accepts, the Arabs do not and a war desired by the Arabs ensues Arabs with the objective of extermination.
All subsequent wars were all wanted and started by the Arabs
All attempts to create 2 states have all failed due to the Palestinian opposition which aims to destroy Israel
Since this is a game to make money I would also agree to put up a Palestinian flag, in fact now as a state it exists even if governed by terrorists like Afghanistan, but since it is governed and managed by terrorists I would agreement to have it paid with real money at a higher price and not with protocoins


Good to see that you agree to have a Palestinian Flag
As for the rest of what you said its full of factual errors which I don't know where to start to refute it and it may not be the subject of this post.
We need a flag for our nation just like any other nation.
IF YOU CAN READ THIS THEN YOU KNOW WE EXIST WHY CANT YOU GIVE US A FLAG

I'll tell you, in the maps I made I included Palestine, unfortunately it now exists as a state even if led by terrorists
Question, what mistake did I make? I mentioned the story, maybe you should study it before writing this
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17.12.2023 - 12:12
Escrito por Eridans, 16.12.2023 at 14:29

Escrito por Elite Forces, 16.12.2023 at 13:39

Escrito por El Serbio, 13.12.2023 at 09:07

Agree, it should be added with price of 75$.. That will symbolize number of years that Israel people are being tortured by terrorists.


+ 1400 years before that when jews lived among islamic and arab empires without being prosecuted as they were in europe.
You zionists never mention the thousands of arab jews who prospered more than 1400 in Yemen, Iraq, Syria, Egypt, Lebanon coz that refutes the alibi of creating a jewish state

The Jewish presence in Palestine has never ceased, while a Palestinian state was only born in 1988, before that a Palestinian state never existed and no Arab state has ever had Jerusalem as its capital, for the Palestinians before there were only terrorist organizations, in reality even after the Palestinians have always been governed by terrorist organizations that aim not for peace but for the destruction of Israel, Israel as a nation was born in 1948 following a UN resolution, Israel accepts, the Arabs do not and a war desired by the Arabs ensues Arabs with the objective of extermination.
All subsequent wars were all wanted and started by the Arabs
All attempts to create 2 states have all failed due to the Palestinian opposition which aims to destroy Israel
Since this is a game to make money I would also agree to put up a Palestinian flag, in fact now as a state it exists even if governed by terrorists like Afghanistan, but since it is governed and managed by terrorists I would agreement to have it paid with real money at a higher price and not with protocoins



I am not reading any of that, and i have to say only one thing - LONG LIVE ISRAEL AND JEWISH PEOPLE
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14.02.2024 - 07:09
Escrito por El Serbio, 17.12.2023 at 12:12

Escrito por Eridans, 16.12.2023 at 14:29

Escrito por Elite Forces, 16.12.2023 at 13:39

Escrito por El Serbio, 13.12.2023 at 09:07

Agree, it should be added with price of 75$.. That will symbolize number of years that Israel people are being tortured by terrorists.


+ 1400 years before that when jews lived among islamic and arab empires without being prosecuted as they were in europe.
You zionists never mention the thousands of arab jews who prospered more than 1400 in Yemen, Iraq, Syria, Egypt, Lebanon coz that refutes the alibi of creating a jewish state

The Jewish presence in Palestine has never ceased, while a Palestinian state was only born in 1988, before that a Palestinian state never existed and no Arab state has ever had Jerusalem as its capital, for the Palestinians before there were only terrorist organizations, in reality even after the Palestinians have always been governed by terrorist organizations that aim not for peace but for the destruction of Israel, Israel as a nation was born in 1948 following a UN resolution, Israel accepts, the Arabs do not and a war desired by the Arabs ensues Arabs with the objective of extermination.
All subsequent wars were all wanted and started by the Arabs
All attempts to create 2 states have all failed due to the Palestinian opposition which aims to destroy Israel
Since this is a game to make money I would also agree to put up a Palestinian flag, in fact now as a state it exists even if governed by terrorists like Afghanistan, but since it is governed and managed by terrorists I would agreement to have it paid with real money at a higher price and not with protocoins



I am not reading any of that, and i have to say only one thing - LONG LIVE ISRAEL AND JEWISH PEOPLE



Israel shouldn't exist, should be dismantled.
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14.02.2024 - 08:28
Escrito por Red.Army, 14.02.2024 at 07:09

Escrito por El Serbio, 17.12.2023 at 12:12

Escrito por Eridans, 16.12.2023 at 14:29

Escrito por Elite Forces, 16.12.2023 at 13:39

Escrito por El Serbio, 13.12.2023 at 09:07

Agree, it should be added with price of 75$.. That will symbolize number of years that Israel people are being tortured by terrorists.


+ 1400 years before that when jews lived among islamic and arab empires without being prosecuted as they were in europe.
You zionists never mention the thousands of arab jews who prospered more than 1400 in Yemen, Iraq, Syria, Egypt, Lebanon coz that refutes the alibi of creating a jewish state

The Jewish presence in Palestine has never ceased, while a Palestinian state was only born in 1988, before that a Palestinian state never existed and no Arab state has ever had Jerusalem as its capital, for the Palestinians before there were only terrorist organizations, in reality even after the Palestinians have always been governed by terrorist organizations that aim not for peace but for the destruction of Israel, Israel as a nation was born in 1948 following a UN resolution, Israel accepts, the Arabs do not and a war desired by the Arabs ensues Arabs with the objective of extermination.
All subsequent wars were all wanted and started by the Arabs
All attempts to create 2 states have all failed due to the Palestinian opposition which aims to destroy Israel
Since this is a game to make money I would also agree to put up a Palestinian flag, in fact now as a state it exists even if governed by terrorists like Afghanistan, but since it is governed and managed by terrorists I would agreement to have it paid with real money at a higher price and not with protocoins



I am not reading any of that, and i have to say only one thing - LONG LIVE ISRAEL AND JEWISH PEOPLE



Israel shouldn't exist, should be dismantled.


Are you still insisting? But are you really saying that Israel shouldn't exist? And for what absurd reason do you say this?

Consider that the Jewish presence in Palestine has never ceased, while a Palestinian state was only born in 1988, before then a Palestinian state never existed and no Arab state has ever had Jerusalem as its capital, for the Palestinians previously only organizations existed terrorist organizations, in reality even after the Palestinians have always been governed by terrorist organizations that aim not at peace but at the destruction of Israel.

Before the defeat against the Romans, Israel had a thousand-year history, which obviously the Palestinians cannot say, then as a nation it was born again in 1948 following a UN resolution, Israel accepted, the Arabs did not and attacked with target of extermination, Israel clearly wins

All subsequent wars were all wanted and started by the Arabs

All attempts to create two states have failed because the Palestinian opposition aims to destroy Israel

As already said previously, since this is a game to make money I would also accept putting a Palestinian flag in the shop, in fact now as a state it exists even if governed by terrorists like Afghanistan, but given that it is governed and managed by terrorists and that therefore the Palestinian flag is actually a flag of terrorist organizations that are up to no good, I think it should be put in the shop but it should only be purchased with real money at a higher price, 100 or 200 dollars would be fine and not with protocoins
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20.03.2024 - 19:00
Escrito por El Serbio, 13.12.2023 at 09:07

Agree, it should be added with price of 75$.. That will symbolize number of years that Israel people are being tortured by terrorists.

You have a nice elo number
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25.03.2024 - 11:54
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Imagine
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25.03.2024 - 14:25
Escrito por Eridans, 14.02.2024 at 08:28

Escrito por Red.Army, 14.02.2024 at 07:09

Escrito por El Serbio, 17.12.2023 at 12:12

Escrito por Eridans, 16.12.2023 at 14:29

Escrito por Elite Forces, 16.12.2023 at 13:39

Escrito por El Serbio, 13.12.2023 at 09:07

Agree, it should be added with price of 75$.. That will symbolize number of years that Israel people are being tortured by terrorists.


+ 1400 years before that when jews lived among islamic and arab empires without being prosecuted as they were in europe.
You zionists never mention the thousands of arab jews who prospered more than 1400 in Yemen, Iraq, Syria, Egypt, Lebanon coz that refutes the alibi of creating a jewish state

The Jewish presence in Palestine has never ceased, while a Palestinian state was only born in 1988, before that a Palestinian state never existed and no Arab state has ever had Jerusalem as its capital, for the Palestinians before there were only terrorist organizations, in reality even after the Palestinians have always been governed by terrorist organizations that aim not for peace but for the destruction of Israel, Israel as a nation was born in 1948 following a UN resolution, Israel accepts, the Arabs do not and a war desired by the Arabs ensues Arabs with the objective of extermination.
All subsequent wars were all wanted and started by the Arabs
All attempts to create 2 states have all failed due to the Palestinian opposition which aims to destroy Israel
Since this is a game to make money I would also agree to put up a Palestinian flag, in fact now as a state it exists even if governed by terrorists like Afghanistan, but since it is governed and managed by terrorists I would agreement to have it paid with real money at a higher price and not with protocoins



I am not reading any of that, and i have to say only one thing - LONG LIVE ISRAEL AND JEWISH PEOPLE



Israel shouldn't exist, should be dismantled.


Are you still insisting? But are you really saying that Israel shouldn't exist? And for what absurd reason do you say this?

Consider that the Jewish presence in Palestine has never ceased, while a Palestinian state was only born in 1988, before then a Palestinian state never existed and no Arab state has ever had Jerusalem as its capital, for the Palestinians previously only organizations existed terrorist organizations, in reality even after the Palestinians have always been governed by terrorist organizations that aim not at peace but at the destruction of Israel.

Before the defeat against the Romans, Israel had a thousand-year history, which obviously the Palestinians cannot say, then as a nation it was born again in 1948 following a UN resolution, Israel accepted, the Arabs did not and attacked with target of extermination, Israel clearly wins

All subsequent wars were all wanted and started by the Arabs

All attempts to create two states have failed because the Palestinian opposition aims to destroy Israel

As already said previously, since this is a game to make money I would also accept putting a Palestinian flag in the shop, in fact now as a state it exists even if governed by terrorists like Afghanistan, but given that it is governed and managed by terrorists and that therefore the Palestinian flag is actually a flag of terrorist organizations that are up to no good, I think it should be put in the shop but it should only be purchased with real money at a higher price, 100 or 200 dollars would be fine and not with protocoins

FAKE ISRAEL JUST CREATED A MAN MADE FAMINE!! FAKE JEWS
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29.03.2024 - 16:44
Escrito por Tokugawa, 25.03.2024 at 14:25

Escrito por Eridans, 14.02.2024 at 08:28

Escrito por Red.Army, 14.02.2024 at 07:09

Escrito por El Serbio, 17.12.2023 at 12:12

Escrito por Eridans, 16.12.2023 at 14:29

Escrito por Elite Forces, 16.12.2023 at 13:39

Escrito por El Serbio, 13.12.2023 at 09:07

Agree, it should be added with price of 75$.. That will symbolize number of years that Israel people are being tortured by terrorists.


+ 1400 years before that when jews lived among islamic and arab empires without being prosecuted as they were in europe.
You zionists never mention the thousands of arab jews who prospered more than 1400 in Yemen, Iraq, Syria, Egypt, Lebanon coz that refutes the alibi of creating a jewish state

The Jewish presence in Palestine has never ceased, while a Palestinian state was only born in 1988, before that a Palestinian state never existed and no Arab state has ever had Jerusalem as its capital, for the Palestinians before there were only terrorist organizations, in reality even after the Palestinians have always been governed by terrorist organizations that aim not for peace but for the destruction of Israel, Israel as a nation was born in 1948 following a UN resolution, Israel accepts, the Arabs do not and a war desired by the Arabs ensues Arabs with the objective of extermination.
All subsequent wars were all wanted and started by the Arabs
All attempts to create 2 states have all failed due to the Palestinian opposition which aims to destroy Israel
Since this is a game to make money I would also agree to put up a Palestinian flag, in fact now as a state it exists even if governed by terrorists like Afghanistan, but since it is governed and managed by terrorists I would agreement to have it paid with real money at a higher price and not with protocoins



I am not reading any of that, and i have to say only one thing - LONG LIVE ISRAEL AND JEWISH PEOPLE



Israel shouldn't exist, should be dismantled.


Are you still insisting? But are you really saying that Israel shouldn't exist? And for what absurd reason do you say this?

Consider that the Jewish presence in Palestine has never ceased, while a Palestinian state was only born in 1988, before then a Palestinian state never existed and no Arab state has ever had Jerusalem as its capital, for the Palestinians previously only organizations existed terrorist organizations, in reality even after the Palestinians have always been governed by terrorist organizations that aim not at peace but at the destruction of Israel.

Before the defeat against the Romans, Israel had a thousand-year history, which obviously the Palestinians cannot say, then as a nation it was born again in 1948 following a UN resolution, Israel accepted, the Arabs did not and attacked with target of extermination, Israel clearly wins

All subsequent wars were all wanted and started by the Arabs

All attempts to create two states have failed because the Palestinian opposition aims to destroy Israel

As already said previously, since this is a game to make money I would also accept putting a Palestinian flag in the shop, in fact now as a state it exists even if governed by terrorists like Afghanistan, but given that it is governed and managed by terrorists and that therefore the Palestinian flag is actually a flag of terrorist organizations that are up to no good, I think it should be put in the shop but it should only be purchased with real money at a higher price, 100 or 200 dollars would be fine and not with protocoins

FAKE ISRAEL JUST CREATED A MAN MADE FAMINE!! FAKE JEWS


Another phase made easily removable, perhaps you should read something more independent, Israel allows the entry of aid even if with controls, but it has been proven that many of these are requisitioned by Hamas, it is Hamas that brought famine and hunger to Gaza

Now a question, I would like your opinion on the Hamas massacre of 07 October, as you know or should know in that massacre Hamas committed several war crimes

I would also like to know what you think of the human shields that, as widely documented, Hamas uses, what do you think?
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